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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>
Cc: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
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	Elena Reshetova <elena.reshetova@intel.com>,
	Hans Liljestrand <ishkamiel@gmail.com>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@gmail.com>,
	"Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>,
	arozansk@redhat.com, Davidlohr Bueso <dave@stgolabs.net>,
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	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 0/2] x86: Implement fast refcount overflow protection
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2017 10:44:55 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170724084455.o5asa55fckgyjri2@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87zibujq5t.fsf@concordia.ellerman.id.au>

On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 04:38:06PM +1000, Michael Ellerman wrote:

> What I'm not entirely clear on is what the best trade off is in terms of
> overhead vs checks. The summary of behaviour between the fast and full
> versions you promised Ingo will help there I think.

That's something that's probably completely different for PPC than it is
for x86. Both because your primitive is LL/SC and thus the saturation
semantics we need a cmpxchg loop for are more natural in your case
anyway, and the fact that your LL/SC is horrendously slow in any case.

Also, I still haven't seen an actual benchmark where our cmpxchg loop
actually regresses anything, just a lot of yelling about potential
regressions :/

  reply	other threads:[~2017-07-24  8:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-07-19  0:03 [PATCH v6 0/2] x86: Implement fast refcount overflow protection Kees Cook
2017-07-19  0:03 ` [PATCH v6 1/2] x86/asm: Add suffix macro for GEN_*_RMWcc() Kees Cook
2017-07-19  0:03 ` [PATCH v6 2/2] x86/refcount: Implement fast refcount overflow protection Kees Cook
2017-07-19 19:37   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-07-19 19:45     ` Kees Cook
2017-07-19 19:52       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-07-19 22:50         ` Kees Cook
2017-07-19 23:01           ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-07-19 23:12     ` Kees Cook
2017-07-19 23:30       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-07-20  9:11 ` [PATCH v6 0/2] x86: " Ingo Molnar
2017-07-20 17:15   ` Kees Cook
2017-07-20 22:53     ` Kees Cook
2017-07-21  7:50       ` Ingo Molnar
2017-07-21 21:22   ` Andrew Morton
2017-07-22  3:33     ` Kees Cook
2017-07-24  6:38       ` Michael Ellerman
2017-07-24  8:44         ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2017-07-24 12:09           ` Michael Ellerman
2017-07-24 12:23             ` Peter Zijlstra

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