From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753900AbdGXLMZ (ORCPT ); Mon, 24 Jul 2017 07:12:25 -0400 Received: from www262.sakura.ne.jp ([202.181.97.72]:25055 "EHLO www262.sakura.ne.jp" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751539AbdGXLMQ (ORCPT ); Mon, 24 Jul 2017 07:12:16 -0400 To: hughd@google.com Cc: mhocko@kernel.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org, mgorman@suse.de, riel@redhat.com, hannes@cmpxchg.org, vbabka@suse.cz, linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mhocko@suse.com Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm, vmscan: do not loop on too_many_isolated for ever From: Tetsuo Handa References: <20170710074842.23175-1-mhocko@kernel.org> <201707201944.IJI05796.VLFJFFtSQMOOOH@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp> In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <201707242012.CJJ06237.tVFQSOFFJMOHOL@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp> X-Mailer: Winbiff [Version 2.51 PL2] X-Accept-Language: ja,en,zh Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2017 20:12:13 +0900 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Hugh Dickins wrote: > On Thu, 20 Jul 2017, Tetsuo Handa wrote: > > Hugh Dickins wrote: > > > You probably won't welcome getting into alternatives at this late stage; > > > but after hacking around it one way or another because of its pointless > > > lockups, I lost patience with that too_many_isolated() loop a few months > > > back (on realizing the enormous number of pages that may be isolated via > > > migrate_pages(2)), and we've been running nicely since with something like: > > > > > > bool got_mutex = false; > > > > > > if (unlikely(too_many_isolated(pgdat, file, sc))) { > > > if (mutex_lock_killable(&pgdat->too_many_isolated)) > > > return SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX; > > > got_mutex = true; > > > } > > > ... > > > if (got_mutex) > > > mutex_unlock(&pgdat->too_many_isolated); > > > > > > Using a mutex to provide the intended throttling, without an infinite > > > loop or an arbitrary delay; and without having to worry (as we often did) > > > about whether those numbers in too_many_isolated() are really appropriate. > > > No premature OOMs complained of yet. > > > > Roughly speaking, there is a moment where shrink_inactive_list() acts > > like below. > > > > bool got_mutex = false; > > > > if (!current_is_kswapd()) { > > if (mutex_lock_killable(&pgdat->too_many_isolated)) > > return SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX; > > got_mutex = true; > > } > > > > // kswapd is blocked here waiting for !current_is_kswapd(). > > That would be a shame, for kswapd to wait for !current_is_kswapd()! Yes, but current code (not about your patch) does allow kswapd to wait for memory allocations of !current_is_kswapd() thread to complete. > > But seriously, I think I understand what you mean by that, you're > thinking that kswapd would be waiting on some other task to clear > the too_many_isolated() condition? Yes. > > No, it does not work that way: kswapd (never seeing too_many_isolated() > because that always says false when current_is_kswapd()) never tries to > take the pgdat->too_many_isolated mutex itself: it does not wait there > at all, although other tasks may be waiting there at the time. I know. I wrote behavior of your patch if my guess (your "..." part corresponds to kswapd doing writepage) is correct. > > Perhaps my naming the mutex "too_many_isolated", same as the function, > is actually confusing, when I had intended it to be helpful. Not confusing at all. It is helpful. I just wanted to confirm what comes in your "..." part. > > > > > if (got_mutex) > > mutex_unlock(&pgdat->too_many_isolated); > > > > > > > > But that was on a different kernel, and there I did have to make sure > > > that PF_MEMALLOC always prevented us from nesting: I'm not certain of > > > that in the current kernel (but do remember Johannes changing the memcg > > > end to make it use PF_MEMALLOC too). I offer the preview above, to see > > > if you're interested in that alternative: if you are, then I'll go ahead > > > and make it into an actual patch against v4.13-rc. > > > > I don't know what your actual patch looks like, but the problem is that > > pgdat->too_many_isolated waits for kswapd while kswapd waits for > > pgdat->too_many_isolated; nobody can unlock pgdat->too_many_isolated if > > once we hit it. > > Not so (and we'd hardly be finding it a useful patch if that were so). Current code allows kswapd to wait for memory allocation of !current_is_kswapd() threads, and thus !current_is_kswapd() threads wait for current_is_kswapd() threads while current_is_kswapd() threads wait for !current_is_kswapd() threads; nobody can make too_many_isolated() false if once we hit it. Hence, this patch is proposed. Thanks.