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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>
Cc: Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH v3]: documentation,atomic: Add new documents
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2017 07:55:14 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170803145514.GS3730@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170803135718.wx2lwlm5aglvhyh5@tardis>

On Thu, Aug 03, 2017 at 10:05:16PM +0800, Boqun Feng wrote:
> Hi Will,
> 
> On Wed, Aug 02, 2017 at 10:45:32AM +0100, Will Deacon wrote:
> [...]
> > 
> > It's worth noting that we don't have the problem with any value-returning
> > atomics, so all flavours of xchg in this test would be forbidden on arm64
> > too.
> > 
> > > 	C C-WillDeacon-MP+o-r+ai-rmb-o.litmus
> > > 
> > > 	(*
> > > 	 * Expected result: Never.
> > > 	 *
> > > 	 * Desired litmus test, with atomic_inc() emulated by xchg_relaxed():
> > > 	 *
> > > 	 *     WRITE_ONCE(x, 1);               atomic_inc(&y);
> > > 	 *     r0 = xchg_release(&y, 5);       smp_rmb();
> > > 	 *                                     r1 = READ_ONCE(x);
> > > 	 *
> > > 	 *
> > > 	 *     WARN_ON(r0 == 0 && r1 == 0);
> > > 	 *)
> > > 
> > > 	{
> > > 	}
> > > 
> > > 	P0(int *x, int *y)
> > > 	{
> > > 		WRITE_ONCE(*x, 1);
> > > 		r0 = xchg_release(y, 5);
> > > 	}
> > > 
> > > 	P1(int *x, int *y)
> > > 	{
> > > 		r2 = xchg_relaxed(y, 1);
> > > 		smp_rmb();
> > > 		r1 = READ_ONCE(*x);
> > > 	}
> > > 
> > > 	exists
> > > 	(0:r0=0 /\ 1:r1=0)
> > > 
> 
> How about a litmus test like this?
> 
>  	C C-AMO-global-transitivity.litmus
>  
>  	{
>  	}
>  
>  	P0(int *x, int *y)
>  	{
>  		WRITE_ONCE(*x, 1);
>  		r0 = xchg_release(y, 5);
>  	}
>  
>  	P1(int *y, int *z)
>  	{
>  		atomic_inc(y);
>  		smp_mb();

I am going to guess that the smp_mb() enforces the needed ordering,
but Will will let me know.  ;-)

							Thanx, Paul

>  		r1 = READ_ONCE(*z);
>  	}
> 
> 	P2(int *x, int *z)
> 	{
> 		WRITE_ONCE(*z, 1);
> 		smp_mb();
> 		r2 = READ_ONCE(*x);
> 	}
>  
>  	exists
>  	(0:r0=0 /\ 1:r1=0 /\ 2:r2=0 )
> 
> Should we forbid the outcome in the exists-clause? I ask because I want
> to know whether we can just treat atomic_inc() as a store, because if I
> replace atomic_inc() with a WRITE(*y, 6), IIUC, the current model says
> this could happen.
> 
> Thoughts?
> 
> Regards,
> Boqun

  reply	other threads:[~2017-08-03 14:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-06-09  9:24 [RFC][PATCH]: documentation,atomic: Add a new atomic_t document Peter Zijlstra
2017-06-09 11:05 ` [RFC][PATCH] atomic: Fix atomic_set_release() for 'funny' architectures Peter Zijlstra
2017-06-09 11:13   ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-06-09 17:28     ` Vineet Gupta
2017-06-09 18:49       ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-06-09 18:58     ` James Bottomley
2017-06-09 14:03   ` Chris Metcalf
2017-08-10 12:10   ` [tip:locking/core] locking/atomic: " tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
2017-06-09 15:44 ` [RFC][PATCH]: documentation,atomic: Add a new atomic_t document Will Deacon
2017-06-09 19:36   ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-06-11 13:56     ` Boqun Feng
2017-06-12 14:49       ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-06-13  6:39         ` Boqun Feng
2017-06-14 12:33         ` Will Deacon
2017-07-12 12:53         ` Boqun Feng
2017-07-12 13:08           ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-07-12 19:13             ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-26 11:53         ` [RFC][PATCH v3]: documentation,atomic: Add new documents Peter Zijlstra
2017-07-26 12:47           ` Boqun Feng
2017-07-31  9:05             ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-07-31 11:04               ` Boqun Feng
2017-07-31 17:43                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-08-01  2:14                   ` Boqun Feng
2017-08-01  9:01                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-01 10:19                     ` Will Deacon
2017-08-01 11:47                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-01 12:17                         ` Will Deacon
2017-08-01 12:52                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-01 16:14                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-08-01 16:42                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-01 16:53                               ` Will Deacon
2017-08-01 22:18                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-08-02  8:46                                 ` Will Deacon
2017-08-01 18:37                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-08-02  9:45                             ` Will Deacon
2017-08-02 16:17                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-08-03 14:05                               ` Boqun Feng
2017-08-03 14:55                                 ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2017-08-03 16:12                                   ` Will Deacon
2017-08-03 16:58                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-08-01 13:35                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-26 16:28           ` Randy Dunlap
2017-06-09 18:15 ` [RFC][PATCH]: documentation,atomic: Add a new atomic_t document Randy Dunlap

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