From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752652AbdHIKAD (ORCPT ); Wed, 9 Aug 2017 06:00:03 -0400 Received: from mail-wm0-f67.google.com ([74.125.82.67]:34280 "EHLO mail-wm0-f67.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752565AbdHIKAB (ORCPT ); Wed, 9 Aug 2017 06:00:01 -0400 Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2017 12:59:57 +0300 From: "Kirill A. Shutemov" To: Rik van Riel Cc: Michal Hocko , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mike.kravetz@oracle.com, linux-mm@kvack.org, fweimer@redhat.com, colm@allcosts.net, akpm@linux-foundation.org, keescook@chromium.org, luto@amacapital.net, wad@chromium.org, mingo@kernel.org, dave.hansen@intel.com, linux-api@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/2] mm,fork,security: introduce MADV_WIPEONFORK Message-ID: <20170809095957.kv47or2w4obaipkn@node.shutemov.name> References: <20170806140425.20937-1-riel@redhat.com> <20170807132257.GH32434@dhcp22.suse.cz> <20170807134648.GI32434@dhcp22.suse.cz> <1502117991.6577.13.camel@redhat.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <1502117991.6577.13.camel@redhat.com> User-Agent: NeoMutt/20170609 (1.8.3) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Mon, Aug 07, 2017 at 10:59:51AM -0400, Rik van Riel wrote: > On Mon, 2017-08-07 at 15:46 +0200, Michal Hocko wrote: > > On Mon 07-08-17 15:22:57, Michal Hocko wrote: > > > This is an user visible API so make sure you CC linux-api (added) > > > > > > On Sun 06-08-17 10:04:23, Rik van Riel wrote: > > > > > > > > A further complication is the proliferation of clone flags, > > > > programs bypassing glibc's functions to call clone directly, > > > > and programs calling unshare, causing the glibc pthread_atfork > > > > hook to not get called. > > > > > > > > It would be better to have the kernel take care of this > > > > automatically. > > > > > > > > This is similar to the OpenBSD minherit syscall with > > > > MAP_INHERIT_ZERO: > > > > > > > >     https://man.openbsd.org/minherit.2 > > > > I would argue that a MAP_$FOO flag would be more appropriate. Or do > > you > > see any cases where such a special mapping would need to change the > > semantic and inherit the content over the fork again? > > > > I do not like the madvise because it is an advise and as such it can > > be > > ignored/not implemented and that shouldn't have any correctness > > effects > > on the child process. > > Too late for that. VM_DONTFORK is already implemented > through MADV_DONTFORK & MADV_DOFORK, in a way that is > very similar to the MADV_WIPEONFORK from these patches. It's not obvious to me what would break if kernel would ignore MADV_DONTFORK or MADV_DONTDUMP. -- Kirill A. Shutemov