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From: Don Zickus <dzickus@redhat.com>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Sebastian Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
	Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>,
	Chris Metcalf <cmetcalf@mellanox.com>,
	Ulrich Obergfell <uobergfe@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [patch 00/29] lockup_detector: Cure hotplug deadlocks and replace duct tape
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2017 18:10:14 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170831221014.b3tlpk3p6zxwclmy@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170831071558.995235362@linutronix.de>

On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 09:15:58AM +0200, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> The lockup detector is broken is several ways:
> 
>     - It's deadlock prone vs. CPU hotplug in various ways. Some of these
>       are due to recursive cpus_read_lock() others are due to
>       cpus_read_lock() from CPU hotplug callbacks which immediately lock
>       the machine because cpus are write locked.
> 
>     - The handling of the cpu hotplug threads happens sideways to the
>       smpboot thread infrastructure, which is racy and pointless
> 
>     - The handling of the user space sysctl interface is a complete
>       trainwreck as it fiddles directly with variables which can be
>       modified or evaluated by the running watchdogs.
> 
>     - The perf event initialization is a steaming pile of duct tape as it
>       idiotically tries to create perf events over and over even if perf is
>       not functional (no hardware, ....). To avoid excessive dmesg spam it
>       contains magic printk ratelimiting along with either wrong or useless
>       messages.
> 
>     - The code structure is horrible as ifdef sections are scattered all
>       over the place which makes it unreadable
> 
>     - There is more wreckage, but see the changelogs for the ugly details.
> 
> Before I get utterly grumpy, I just pretend that I don't give a sh*t!
> 
> The following series sanitizes the facility and addresses the problems.

Hi Thomas,

Thanks for the patchset.  I agree with most your issues you complained
about, just wasn't smart enough to figure out the right way to solve them.
Despite your aggressive comments, I will review the code to see if it covers
the scenarios that have popped up over the years and run some testing on my
side.  Probably need a few days to do that.

Cheers,
Don

> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 	tglx
> ---
>  arch/parisc/kernel/process.c   |    2 
>  arch/powerpc/kernel/watchdog.c |   22 -
>  arch/x86/events/intel/core.c   |   11 
>  include/linux/nmi.h            |  121 +++----
>  include/linux/smpboot.h        |    4 
>  kernel/cpu.c                   |    6 
>  kernel/smpboot.c               |   22 -
>  kernel/sysctl.c                |   22 -
>  kernel/watchdog.c              |  638 ++++++++++++++---------------------------
>  kernel/watchdog_hld.c          |  193 ++++++------
>  10 files changed, 433 insertions(+), 608 deletions(-)
> 
>       

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-08-31 22:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-08-31  7:15 [patch 00/29] lockup_detector: Cure hotplug deadlocks and replace duct tape Thomas Gleixner
2017-08-31  7:15 ` [patch 01/29] hardlockup_detector: Provide interface to stop/restart perf events Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-06 16:14   ` Borislav Petkov
2017-08-31  7:16 ` [patch 02/29] perf/x86/intel: Sanitize PMU HT bug workaround Thomas Gleixner
2017-08-31  7:16 ` [patch 03/29] lockup_detector: Provide interface to stop from poweroff() Thomas Gleixner
2017-08-31  7:16 ` [patch 04/29] parisc: Use lockup_detector_stop() Thomas Gleixner
2017-08-31  7:16 ` [patch 05/29] lockup_detector: Remove broken suspend/resume interfaces Thomas Gleixner
2017-08-31  7:16 ` [patch 06/29] lockup_detector: Rework cpu hotplug locking Thomas Gleixner
2017-08-31  7:16 ` [patch 07/29] lockup_detector: Rename watchdog_proc_mutex Thomas Gleixner
2017-08-31  7:16 ` [patch 08/29] lockup_detector: Mark hardlockup_detector_disable() __init Thomas Gleixner
2017-08-31  7:16 ` [patch 09/29] lockup_detector/perf: Remove broken self disable on failure Thomas Gleixner
2017-08-31  7:16 ` [patch 10/29] lockup_detector/perf: Prevent cpu hotplug deadlock Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-01 19:02   ` Don Zickus
2017-09-01 19:29     ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-05 14:51       ` Don Zickus
2017-08-31  7:16 ` [patch 11/29] lockup_detector: Remove park_in_progress hackery Thomas Gleixner
     [not found]   ` <CAEeg4=CJohPTi8FUNWqb3egsbZnExyJapcNC7wD-2amXTsMrYw@mail.gmail.com>
2017-09-04 12:10     ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-09-05 15:15       ` Don Zickus
2017-09-05 15:42         ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-05 13:58     ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-05 19:19       ` [patch V2 11/29] lockup_detector: Remove park_in_progress obfuscation Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-14 10:43         ` [tip:core/urgent] watchdog/core: Remove the " tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2017-08-31  7:16 ` [patch 12/29] lockup_detector: Cleanup stub functions Thomas Gleixner
2017-08-31  7:16 ` [patch 13/29] lockup_detector: Cleanup the ifdef maze Thomas Gleixner
2017-08-31  7:16 ` [patch 14/29] lockup_detector: Split out cpumask write function Thomas Gleixner
2017-08-31  7:16 ` [patch 15/29] smpboot/threads: Avoid runtime allocation Thomas Gleixner
2017-08-31  7:16 ` [patch 16/29] lockup_detector: Create new thread handling infrastructure Thomas Gleixner
2017-08-31  7:16 ` [patch 17/29] lockup_detector: Get rid of the thread teardown/setup dance Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-01 19:08   ` Don Zickus
2017-09-01 19:45     ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-08-31  7:16 ` [patch 18/29] lockup_detector: Further simplify sysctl handling Thomas Gleixner
2017-08-31  7:16 ` [patch 19/29] lockup_detector: Cleanup header mess Thomas Gleixner
2017-08-31  7:16 ` [patch 20/29] lockup_detector/sysctl: Get rid of the ifdeffery Thomas Gleixner
2017-08-31  7:16 ` [patch 21/29] lockup_detector: Cleanup sysctl variable name space Thomas Gleixner
2017-08-31  7:16 ` [patch 22/29] lockup_detector: Make watchdog_nmi_reconfigure() two stage Thomas Gleixner
2017-08-31  7:16 ` [patch 23/29] lockup_detector: Get rid of the racy update loop Thomas Gleixner
2017-08-31  7:16 ` [patch 24/29] lockup_detector/perf: Implement init time perf validation Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-07 15:58   ` Don Zickus
2017-08-31  7:16 ` [patch 25/29] lockup_detector: Implement init time detection of perf Thomas Gleixner
2017-08-31  7:16 ` [patch 26/29] lockup_detector/perf: Implement CPU enable replacement Thomas Gleixner
2017-08-31  7:16 ` [patch 27/29] lockup_detector: Use new perf CPU enable mechanism Thomas Gleixner
2017-08-31  7:16 ` [patch 28/29] lockup_detector/perf: Simplify deferred event destroy Thomas Gleixner
2017-08-31  7:16 ` [patch 29/29] lockup_detector: Cleanup hotplug locking mess Thomas Gleixner
2017-08-31 22:10 ` Don Zickus [this message]
2017-09-01  4:42   ` [patch 00/29] lockup_detector: Cure hotplug deadlocks and replace duct tape Nicholas Piggin
2017-09-01  9:18   ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-07 16:04 ` Don Zickus

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