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* [PATCH] mm: fix RODATA_TEST failure "rodata_test: test data was not read only"
@ 2017-09-21  9:37 Christophe Leroy
  2017-09-24 19:17 ` Kees Cook
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Christophe Leroy @ 2017-09-21  9:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Andrew Morton, Kees Cook, Jinbum Park
  Cc: linux-mm, linux-kernel, linuxppc-dev

On powerpc, RODATA_TEST fails with message the following messages:

[    6.199505] Freeing unused kernel memory: 528K
[    6.203935] rodata_test: test data was not read only

This is because GCC allocates it to .data section:

c0695034 g     O .data	00000004 rodata_test_data

Since commit 056b9d8a76924 ("mm: remove rodata_test_data export,
add pr_fmt"), rodata_test_data is used only inside rodata_test.c
By declaring it static, it gets properly allocated into .rodata
section instead of .data:

c04df710 l     O .rodata	00000004 rodata_test_data

Signed-off-by: Christophe Leroy <christophe.leroy@c-s.fr>
---
 mm/rodata_test.c | 2 +-
 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)

diff --git a/mm/rodata_test.c b/mm/rodata_test.c
index 6bb4deb12e78..d908c8769b48 100644
--- a/mm/rodata_test.c
+++ b/mm/rodata_test.c
@@ -14,7 +14,7 @@
 #include <linux/uaccess.h>
 #include <asm/sections.h>
 
-const int rodata_test_data = 0xC3;
+static const int rodata_test_data = 0xC3;
 
 void rodata_test(void)
 {
-- 
2.13.3

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* Re: [PATCH] mm: fix RODATA_TEST failure "rodata_test: test data was not read only"
  2017-09-21  9:37 [PATCH] mm: fix RODATA_TEST failure "rodata_test: test data was not read only" Christophe Leroy
@ 2017-09-24 19:17 ` Kees Cook
  2017-09-25  7:37   ` Segher Boessenkool
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Kees Cook @ 2017-09-24 19:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Christophe Leroy, Michael Ellerman
  Cc: Jinbum Park, Linux-MM, LKML, linuxppc-dev, Andrew Morton

On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 2:37 AM, Christophe Leroy
<christophe.leroy@c-s.fr> wrote:
> On powerpc, RODATA_TEST fails with message the following messages:
>
> [    6.199505] Freeing unused kernel memory: 528K
> [    6.203935] rodata_test: test data was not read only
>
> This is because GCC allocates it to .data section:
>
> c0695034 g     O .data  00000004 rodata_test_data

Uuuh... that seems like a compiler bug. It's marked "const" -- it
should never end up in .data. I would argue that this has done exactly
what it was supposed to do, and shows that something has gone wrong.
It should always be const. Adding "static" should just change
visibility. (I'm not opposed to the static change, but it seems to
paper over a problem with the compiler...)

-Kees

>
> Since commit 056b9d8a76924 ("mm: remove rodata_test_data export,
> add pr_fmt"), rodata_test_data is used only inside rodata_test.c
> By declaring it static, it gets properly allocated into .rodata
> section instead of .data:
>
> c04df710 l     O .rodata        00000004 rodata_test_data
>
> Signed-off-by: Christophe Leroy <christophe.leroy@c-s.fr>
> ---
>  mm/rodata_test.c | 2 +-
>  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
>
> diff --git a/mm/rodata_test.c b/mm/rodata_test.c
> index 6bb4deb12e78..d908c8769b48 100644
> --- a/mm/rodata_test.c
> +++ b/mm/rodata_test.c
> @@ -14,7 +14,7 @@
>  #include <linux/uaccess.h>
>  #include <asm/sections.h>
>
> -const int rodata_test_data = 0xC3;
> +static const int rodata_test_data = 0xC3;
>
>  void rodata_test(void)
>  {
> --
> 2.13.3
>



-- 
Kees Cook
Pixel Security

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* Re: [PATCH] mm: fix RODATA_TEST failure "rodata_test: test data was not read only"
  2017-09-24 19:17 ` Kees Cook
@ 2017-09-25  7:37   ` Segher Boessenkool
  2017-09-25 16:01     ` David Laight
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Segher Boessenkool @ 2017-09-25  7:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Kees Cook
  Cc: Christophe Leroy, Michael Ellerman, Jinbum Park, Andrew Morton,
	linuxppc-dev, LKML, Linux-MM

On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 12:17:51PM -0700, Kees Cook wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 2:37 AM, Christophe Leroy
> <christophe.leroy@c-s.fr> wrote:
> > On powerpc, RODATA_TEST fails with message the following messages:
> >
> > [    6.199505] Freeing unused kernel memory: 528K
> > [    6.203935] rodata_test: test data was not read only
> >
> > This is because GCC allocates it to .data section:
> >
> > c0695034 g     O .data  00000004 rodata_test_data
> 
> Uuuh... that seems like a compiler bug. It's marked "const" -- it
> should never end up in .data. I would argue that this has done exactly
> what it was supposed to do, and shows that something has gone wrong.
> It should always be const. Adding "static" should just change
> visibility. (I'm not opposed to the static change, but it seems to
> paper over a problem with the compiler...)

The compiler puts this item in .sdata, for 32-bit.  There is no .srodata,
so if it wants to use a small data section, it must use .sdata .

Non-external, non-referenced symbols are not put in .sdata, that is the
difference you see with the "static".

I don't think there is a bug here.  If you think there is, please open
a GCC bug.


Segher

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* RE: [PATCH] mm: fix RODATA_TEST failure "rodata_test: test data was not read only"
  2017-09-25  7:37   ` Segher Boessenkool
@ 2017-09-25 16:01     ` David Laight
  2017-09-25 19:41       ` Segher Boessenkool
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: David Laight @ 2017-09-25 16:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Segher Boessenkool, Kees Cook
  Cc: Linux-MM, LKML, Jinbum Park, Andrew Morton, linuxppc-dev

From: Segher Boessenkool
> Sent: 25 September 2017 08:37
> On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 12:17:51PM -0700, Kees Cook wrote:
> > On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 2:37 AM, Christophe Leroy
> > <christophe.leroy@c-s.fr> wrote:
> > > On powerpc, RODATA_TEST fails with message the following messages:
> > >
> > > [    6.199505] Freeing unused kernel memory: 528K
> > > [    6.203935] rodata_test: test data was not read only
> > >
> > > This is because GCC allocates it to .data section:
> > >
> > > c0695034 g     O .data  00000004 rodata_test_data
> >
> > Uuuh... that seems like a compiler bug. It's marked "const" -- it
> > should never end up in .data. I would argue that this has done exactly
> > what it was supposed to do, and shows that something has gone wrong.
> > It should always be const. Adding "static" should just change
> > visibility. (I'm not opposed to the static change, but it seems to
> > paper over a problem with the compiler...)
> 
> The compiler puts this item in .sdata, for 32-bit.  There is no .srodata,
> so if it wants to use a small data section, it must use .sdata .
> 
> Non-external, non-referenced symbols are not put in .sdata, that is the
> difference you see with the "static".
> 
> I don't think there is a bug here.  If you think there is, please open
> a GCC bug.

The .sxxx sections are for 'small' data that can be accessed (typically)
using small offsets from a global register.
This means that all sections must be adjacent in the image.
So you can't really have readonly small data.

My guess is that the linker script is putting .srodata in with .sdata.

	David

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* Re: [PATCH] mm: fix RODATA_TEST failure "rodata_test: test data was not read only"
  2017-09-25 16:01     ` David Laight
@ 2017-09-25 19:41       ` Segher Boessenkool
  2017-10-02 19:29         ` Kees Cook
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Segher Boessenkool @ 2017-09-25 19:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: David Laight
  Cc: Kees Cook, Linux-MM, LKML, Jinbum Park, Andrew Morton, linuxppc-dev

On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 04:01:55PM +0000, David Laight wrote:
> From: Segher Boessenkool
> > The compiler puts this item in .sdata, for 32-bit.  There is no .srodata,
> > so if it wants to use a small data section, it must use .sdata .
> > 
> > Non-external, non-referenced symbols are not put in .sdata, that is the
> > difference you see with the "static".
> > 
> > I don't think there is a bug here.  If you think there is, please open
> > a GCC bug.
> 
> The .sxxx sections are for 'small' data that can be accessed (typically)
> using small offsets from a global register.
> This means that all sections must be adjacent in the image.
> So you can't really have readonly small data.
> 
> My guess is that the linker script is putting .srodata in with .sdata.

.srodata does not *exist* (in the ABI).


Segher

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* Re: [PATCH] mm: fix RODATA_TEST failure "rodata_test: test data was not read only"
  2017-09-25 19:41       ` Segher Boessenkool
@ 2017-10-02 19:29         ` Kees Cook
  2017-10-02 20:08           ` Segher Boessenkool
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Kees Cook @ 2017-10-02 19:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Segher Boessenkool, Benjamin Herrenschmidt, Michael Ellerman
  Cc: David Laight, Linux-MM, LKML, Jinbum Park, Andrew Morton, linuxppc-dev

On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 12:41 PM, Segher Boessenkool
<segher@kernel.crashing.org> wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 04:01:55PM +0000, David Laight wrote:
>> From: Segher Boessenkool
>> > The compiler puts this item in .sdata, for 32-bit.  There is no .srodata,
>> > so if it wants to use a small data section, it must use .sdata .
>> >
>> > Non-external, non-referenced symbols are not put in .sdata, that is the
>> > difference you see with the "static".
>> >
>> > I don't think there is a bug here.  If you think there is, please open
>> > a GCC bug.
>>
>> The .sxxx sections are for 'small' data that can be accessed (typically)
>> using small offsets from a global register.
>> This means that all sections must be adjacent in the image.
>> So you can't really have readonly small data.
>>
>> My guess is that the linker script is putting .srodata in with .sdata.
>
> .srodata does not *exist* (in the ABI).

So, I still think this is a bug. The variable is marked const: this is
not a _suggestion_. :) If the compiler produces output where the
variable is writable, that's a bug.

I can't tell if this bug is related:
https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=9571

-Kees

-- 
Kees Cook
Pixel Security

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* Re: [PATCH] mm: fix RODATA_TEST failure "rodata_test: test data was not read only"
  2017-10-02 19:29         ` Kees Cook
@ 2017-10-02 20:08           ` Segher Boessenkool
  2017-10-02 20:27             ` Kees Cook
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Segher Boessenkool @ 2017-10-02 20:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Kees Cook
  Cc: Benjamin Herrenschmidt, Michael Ellerman, David Laight, Linux-MM,
	LKML, Jinbum Park, Andrew Morton, linuxppc-dev

On Mon, Oct 02, 2017 at 12:29:45PM -0700, Kees Cook wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 12:41 PM, Segher Boessenkool
> <segher@kernel.crashing.org> wrote:
> > On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 04:01:55PM +0000, David Laight wrote:
> >> From: Segher Boessenkool
> >> > The compiler puts this item in .sdata, for 32-bit.  There is no .srodata,
> >> > so if it wants to use a small data section, it must use .sdata .
> >> >
> >> > Non-external, non-referenced symbols are not put in .sdata, that is the
> >> > difference you see with the "static".
> >> >
> >> > I don't think there is a bug here.  If you think there is, please open
> >> > a GCC bug.
> >>
> >> The .sxxx sections are for 'small' data that can be accessed (typically)
> >> using small offsets from a global register.
> >> This means that all sections must be adjacent in the image.
> >> So you can't really have readonly small data.
> >>
> >> My guess is that the linker script is putting .srodata in with .sdata.
> >
> > .srodata does not *exist* (in the ABI).
> 
> So, I still think this is a bug. The variable is marked const: this is
> not a _suggestion_. :) If the compiler produces output where the
> variable is writable, that's a bug.

C11 6.7.3/6: "If an attempt is made to modify an object defined with a
const-qualified type through use of an lvalue with non-const-qualified
type, the behavior is undefined."

And that is all that "const" means.

The compiler is free to put this var in *no* data section, or to copy
it to the stack before using it, or anything else it thinks is a good
idea.

If you think it would be a good idea for the compiler to change its
behaviour here, please file a PR (or send a patch).  Please bring
arguments why we would want to change this.

> I can't tell if this bug is related:
> https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=9571

I don't think so: the only remaining bug there is that a copy of the
constant is put in .rodata.cst8 (although there is a copy in .sdata2
already).

Thanks,


Segher

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* Re: [PATCH] mm: fix RODATA_TEST failure "rodata_test: test data was not read only"
  2017-10-02 20:08           ` Segher Boessenkool
@ 2017-10-02 20:27             ` Kees Cook
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Kees Cook @ 2017-10-02 20:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Segher Boessenkool
  Cc: Benjamin Herrenschmidt, Michael Ellerman, David Laight, Linux-MM,
	LKML, Jinbum Park, Andrew Morton, linuxppc-dev

On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 1:08 PM, Segher Boessenkool
<segher@kernel.crashing.org> wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 02, 2017 at 12:29:45PM -0700, Kees Cook wrote:
>> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 12:41 PM, Segher Boessenkool
>> <segher@kernel.crashing.org> wrote:
>> > On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 04:01:55PM +0000, David Laight wrote:
>> >> From: Segher Boessenkool
>> >> > The compiler puts this item in .sdata, for 32-bit.  There is no .srodata,
>> >> > so if it wants to use a small data section, it must use .sdata .
>> >> >
>> >> > Non-external, non-referenced symbols are not put in .sdata, that is the
>> >> > difference you see with the "static".
>> >> >
>> >> > I don't think there is a bug here.  If you think there is, please open
>> >> > a GCC bug.
>> >>
>> >> The .sxxx sections are for 'small' data that can be accessed (typically)
>> >> using small offsets from a global register.
>> >> This means that all sections must be adjacent in the image.
>> >> So you can't really have readonly small data.
>> >>
>> >> My guess is that the linker script is putting .srodata in with .sdata.
>> >
>> > .srodata does not *exist* (in the ABI).
>>
>> So, I still think this is a bug. The variable is marked const: this is
>> not a _suggestion_. :) If the compiler produces output where the
>> variable is writable, that's a bug.
>
> C11 6.7.3/6: "If an attempt is made to modify an object defined with a
> const-qualified type through use of an lvalue with non-const-qualified
> type, the behavior is undefined."
>
> And that is all that "const" means.
>
> The compiler is free to put this var in *no* data section, or to copy
> it to the stack before using it, or anything else it thinks is a good
> idea.

The kernel depends on const things being read-only. I realize C11 says
this is "undefined", but from a kernel security perspective, const
means read-only, and this is true on other architectures. Now,
strictly speaking, the compiler is just responsible for doing section
assignment for a variable, and the linker then lays things out, but
the result carries the requested memory protections (i.e. read-only,
executable, etc). If "const" is just a hint, then what is the
canonical way to have gcc put a variable into a section that the
linker will always request be kept read-only?

> If you think it would be a good idea for the compiler to change its
> behaviour here, please file a PR (or send a patch).  Please bring
> arguments why we would want to change this.

Sure:
https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=82411

>> I can't tell if this bug is related:
>> https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=9571
>
> I don't think so: the only remaining bug there is that a copy of the
> constant is put in .rodata.cst8 (although there is a copy in .sdata2
> already).

Okay, thanks for checking.

-Kees

-- 
Kees Cook
Pixel Security

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