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From: Markus Trippelsdorf <markus@trippelsdorf.de>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>
Cc: x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Adam Borowski <kilobyte@angband.pl>,
	Brian Gerst <brgerst@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] x86/mm: Flush more aggressively in lazy TLB mode
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2017 10:22:57 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171010082257.GA12616@x4> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8eccc9240041ea7cb94624cab8d07e2a6e911ba7.1507567665.git.luto@kernel.org>

On 2017.10.09 at 09:50 -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> Since commit 94b1b03b519b, x86's lazy TLB mode has been all the way
> lazy: when running a kernel thread (including the idle thread), the
> kernel keeps using the last user mm's page tables without attempting
> to maintain user TLB coherence at all.  From a pure semantic
> perspective, this is fine -- kernel threads won't attempt to access
> user pages, so having stale TLB entries doesn't matter.
> 
> Unfortunately, I forgot about a subtlety.  By skipping TLB flushes,
> we also allow any paging-structure caches that may exist on the CPU
> to become incoherent.  This means that we can have a
> paging-structure cache entry that references a freed page table, and
> the CPU is within its rights to do a speculative page walk starting
> at the freed page table.
> 
> I can imagine this causing two different problems:
> 
>  - A speculative page walk starting from a bogus page table could read
>    IO addresses.  I haven't seen any reports of this causing problems.
> 
>  - A speculative page walk that involves a bogus page table can install
>    garbage in the TLB.  Such garbage would always be at a user VA, but
>    some AMD CPUs have logic that triggers a machine check when it notices
>    these bogus entries.  I've seen a couple reports of this.
> 
> Reinstate TLB coherence in lazy mode.  With this patch applied, we
> do it in one of two ways.  If we have PCID, we simply switch back to
> init_mm's page tables when we enter a kernel thread -- this seems to
> be quite cheap except for the cost of serializing the CPU.  If we
> don't have PCID, then we set a flag and switch to init_mm the first
> time we would otherwise need to flush the TLB.

Your patch fixes the problem. (I've stressed my AMD machine in various
ways since yesterday. No issues thus far.) 
Thanks.

-- 
Markus

      parent reply	other threads:[~2017-10-10  8:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-10-09 16:50 [RFC PATCH] x86/mm: Flush more aggressively in lazy TLB mode Andy Lutomirski
2017-10-09 17:02 ` Borislav Petkov
2017-10-09 17:36   ` Borislav Petkov
2017-10-09 17:50     ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-10-09 18:08       ` Borislav Petkov
2017-10-09 18:31         ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-10-13  9:07   ` demfloro
2017-10-14 10:49   ` [tip:x86/urgent] " tip-bot for Andy Lutomirski
2017-10-14 12:34     ` [PATCH] x86/mm: Rip out the TLB benchmarking knob Borislav Petkov
2017-10-14 17:01       ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-10-14 16:34     ` [tip:x86/urgent] x86/mm: Flush more aggressively in lazy TLB mode Andy Lutomirski
2017-10-14 17:00       ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-10-16  2:39   ` [lkp-robot] [x86/mm] c4c3c3c2d0: will-it-scale.per_process_ops -61.0% regression kernel test robot
2017-10-16 10:15     ` Borislav Petkov
2017-10-17  1:06       ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-10-17  4:57         ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2017-10-17  8:00           ` Borislav Petkov
2017-10-17 22:06             ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-10-18 14:26               ` Borislav Petkov
2017-10-18  1:59             ` Ye Xiaolong
2017-10-18  8:11               ` Borislav Petkov
2017-10-17  6:04         ` Ye Xiaolong
2017-10-10  8:22 ` Markus Trippelsdorf [this message]

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