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From: Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>
To: Tony Krowiak <akrowiak@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: Pierre Morel <pmorel@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	linux-s390@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, freude@de.ibm.com, schwidefsky@de.ibm.com,
	heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com, borntraeger@de.ibm.com,
	kwankhede@nvidia.com, bjsdjshi@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	pbonzini@redhat.com, alex.williamson@redhat.com,
	alifm@linux.vnet.ibm.com, mjrosato@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	qemu-s390x@nongnu.org, jjherne@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	thuth@redhat.com, pasic@linux.vnet.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [RFC 05/19] s390/zcrypt: base implementation of AP matrix device driver
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2017 17:47:41 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171116174741.18e3f40b.cohuck@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f1def4fc-49d8-8662-208b-fcea22ee87b0@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

On Thu, 16 Nov 2017 09:25:27 -0500
Tony Krowiak <akrowiak@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:

> On 11/16/2017 07:35 AM, Cornelia Huck wrote:
> > On Thu, 16 Nov 2017 13:02:26 +0100
> > Pierre Morel <pmorel@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
> >  
> >> On 14/11/2017 17:37, Tony Krowiak wrote:  
> >>> On 11/14/2017 07:40 AM, Cornelia Huck wrote:  
> >>>> On Fri, 13 Oct 2017 13:38:50 -0400
> >>>> Tony Krowiak <akrowiak@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:  
> >>>>> diff --git a/arch/s390/Kconfig b/arch/s390/Kconfig
> >>>>> index 48af970..411c19a 100644
> >>>>> --- a/arch/s390/Kconfig
> >>>>> +++ b/arch/s390/Kconfig
> >>>>> @@ -722,6 +722,19 @@ config VFIO_CCW
> >>>>>          To compile this driver as a module, choose M here: the
> >>>>>          module will be called vfio_ccw.
> >>>>> +config VFIO_AP_MATRIX
> >>>>> +    def_tristate m
> >>>>> +    prompt "Support for Adjunct Processor Matrix device interface"
> >>>>> +    depends on ZCRYPT
> >>>>> +    select VFIO
> >>>>> +    select MDEV
> >>>>> +    select VFIO_MDEV
> >>>>> +    select VFIO_MDEV_DEVICE
> >>>>> +    select IOMMU_API  
> >>>> I think the more common pattern is to depend on the VFIO configs
> >>>> instead of selecting them.  
> >>> It's ironic because I originally changed from using 'depends on' and
> >>> changed it based on review comments made
> >>> on our internal mailing list. I'll go with 'depends on'.  
> >> Is doing like the others a sufficient good reason?
> >> What if the first who did this did not really think about it?
> >>
> >> When an administrator configure the kernel what does he think?
> >>
> >> - I want to have AP through AP_VFIO in my guests
> >> 	and he get implicitly VFIO
> >> or
> >> - I want to have VFIO
> >> 	and he has to explicitly add AP_VFIO too
> >>
> >> It seems to me that the first is much more user friendly.
> >>
> >> Please tell me if I missed something. dependencies? collateral damages?
> >> my logic is wrong?  
> > Using select for anything that's not a simple infrastructure dependency
> > may lead into trouble (we've had issues in the past where options tried
> > to enable other options but missed dependencies).
> >
> > If a user wants to use vfio-ap, I think it is reasonable to expect them
> > to figure out that they need both ap and vfio for that.
> >
> > [And config help has gotten much better than it was years ago; it's not
> > that hard to figure out what is actually needed.]  
> Is it sufficient to specify 'depends on ZCRYPT && VFIO_MDEV_DEVICE'
> since 'VFIO_MDEV_DEVICE depends on VFIO && VFIO_MDEV' and 'VFIO_MDEV
> depends on VFIO' and 'VFIO depends on IOMMU_API'?

Perhaps ZCRYPT && VFIO_MDEV && VFIO_MDEV_DEVICE, to make it a bit more
obvious?

[Also, is IOMMU_API only needed to satisfy dependencies?]

  reply	other threads:[~2017-11-16 16:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 108+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-10-13 17:38 [RFC 00/19] KVM: s390/crypto/vfio: guest dedicated crypto adapters Tony Krowiak
2017-10-13 17:38 ` [RFC 01/19] KVM: s390: SIE considerations for AP Queue virtualization Tony Krowiak
2017-11-02 11:54   ` Christian Borntraeger
2017-11-02 19:53     ` Tony Krowiak
2017-10-13 17:38 ` [RFC 02/19] KVM: s390: refactor crypto initialization Tony Krowiak
2017-11-02 12:41   ` Christian Borntraeger
2017-11-14 11:50     ` Cornelia Huck
2017-11-14 15:53       ` Tony Krowiak
2017-10-13 17:38 ` [RFC 03/19] s390/zcrypt: new AP matrix bus Tony Krowiak
2017-10-16  8:47   ` Martin Schwidefsky
2017-10-16 15:02     ` Tony Krowiak
2017-11-14 11:58   ` Cornelia Huck
2017-11-14 13:19     ` Tony Krowiak
2017-11-14 15:54     ` Tony Krowiak
2017-11-14 16:07     ` Tony Krowiak
2017-10-13 17:38 ` [RFC 04/19] s390/zcrypt: create an AP matrix device on the " Tony Krowiak
2017-10-18 16:20   ` Cornelia Huck
2017-10-18 17:54     ` Tony Krowiak
2017-10-13 17:38 ` [RFC 05/19] s390/zcrypt: base implementation of AP matrix device driver Tony Krowiak
2017-10-16  8:59   ` Martin Schwidefsky
2017-10-16 15:56     ` Tony Krowiak
2017-11-14 12:40   ` Cornelia Huck
2017-11-14 16:37     ` Tony Krowiak
2017-11-14 17:00       ` Cornelia Huck
2017-11-14 18:15         ` Tony Krowiak
2017-11-15 10:31           ` Cornelia Huck
2017-11-16 12:02       ` Pierre Morel
2017-11-16 12:35         ` Cornelia Huck
2017-11-16 14:25           ` Tony Krowiak
2017-11-16 16:47             ` Cornelia Huck [this message]
2017-11-17 21:13               ` Tony Krowiak
2017-11-20 17:15                 ` Cornelia Huck
2017-11-16 14:25           ` Pierre Morel
2017-10-13 17:38 ` [RFC 06/19] s390/zcrypt: register matrix device with VFIO mediated device framework Tony Krowiak
2017-10-16  9:03   ` Martin Schwidefsky
2017-10-16 16:09     ` Tony Krowiak
2017-11-14 13:14   ` Cornelia Huck
2017-11-16 15:37     ` Tony Krowiak
2017-10-13 17:38 ` [RFC 07/19] KVM: s390: introduce AP matrix configuration interface Tony Krowiak
2017-10-16  9:10   ` Martin Schwidefsky
2017-10-16 16:26     ` Tony Krowiak
2017-11-14 13:16   ` Cornelia Huck
2017-11-16 15:41     ` Tony Krowiak
2017-10-13 17:38 ` [RFC 08/19] s390/zcrypt: support for assigning adapters to matrix mdev Tony Krowiak
2017-11-14 13:22   ` Cornelia Huck
2017-11-16 23:53     ` Tony Krowiak
2017-11-17  9:50       ` Cornelia Huck
2017-10-13 17:38 ` [RFC 09/19] s390/zcrypt: validate adapter assignment Tony Krowiak
2017-10-13 17:38 ` [RFC 10/19] s390/zcrypt: sysfs interfaces supporting AP domain assignment Tony Krowiak
2017-10-13 17:38 ` [RFC 11/19] s390/zcrypt: validate " Tony Krowiak
2017-10-13 17:38 ` [RFC 12/19] s390/zcrypt: sysfs support for control " Tony Krowiak
2017-10-13 17:38 ` [RFC 13/19] s390/zcrypt: validate " Tony Krowiak
2017-10-16  9:13   ` Martin Schwidefsky
2017-10-13 17:38 ` [RFC 14/19] KVM: s390: Connect the AP mediated matrix device to KVM Tony Krowiak
2017-10-13 17:39 ` [RFC 15/19] s390/zcrypt: introduce ioctl access to VFIO AP Matrix driver Tony Krowiak
2017-10-13 17:39 ` [RFC 16/19] KVM: s390: interface to configure KVM guest's AP matrix Tony Krowiak
2017-10-16 20:22   ` Tony Krowiak
2017-11-14 13:46   ` Cornelia Huck
2017-10-13 17:39 ` [RFC 17/19] KVM: s390: validate input to AP matrix config interface Tony Krowiak
2017-10-13 17:39 ` [RFC 18/19] KVM: s390: New ioctl to configure KVM guest's AP matrix Tony Krowiak
2017-11-02 18:55   ` Tony Krowiak
2017-10-13 17:39 ` [RFC 19/19] s390/facilities: enable AP facilities needed by guest Tony Krowiak
2017-10-16  9:25   ` Martin Schwidefsky
2017-11-02 12:08     ` Christian Borntraeger
2017-11-02 12:23       ` Halil Pasic
     [not found]       ` <af1bb867-f9a0-458b-b7b2-c0bb9456eb7f@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
2017-11-02 15:53         ` Christian Borntraeger
2017-11-02 18:49           ` Tony Krowiak
2017-11-03  8:47             ` Christian Borntraeger
2017-12-02  1:30               ` Tony Krowiak
2017-12-05  7:52                 ` Harald Freudenberger
2017-12-05 14:04                   ` Cornelia Huck
2017-12-05 14:23                     ` Pierre Morel
2017-12-05 14:30                       ` Cornelia Huck
2017-12-05 14:47                         ` Pierre Morel
2017-12-05 15:14                       ` Tony Krowiak
2017-12-05 15:01                     ` Tony Krowiak
2017-12-06  9:15                       ` Pierre Morel
2017-12-06 10:15                         ` Cornelia Huck
2017-12-05 14:14                   ` Tony Krowiak
     [not found]         ` <OF182217F7.6A47A64E-ON002581CD.002BCF58-C12581CD.002D4127@notes.na.collabserv.com>
2017-11-03  8:49           ` Christian Borntraeger
2017-10-16  9:27 ` [RFC 00/19] KVM: s390/crypto/vfio: guest dedicated crypto adapters Martin Schwidefsky
2017-10-16 10:06   ` Christian Borntraeger
2017-10-16 16:30     ` Tony Krowiak
2017-10-16 10:05 ` Cornelia Huck
2017-10-16 16:27   ` Tony Krowiak
2017-10-18 16:43 ` Christian Borntraeger
2017-10-29 11:11 ` Cornelia Huck
2017-10-30  8:57   ` Christian Borntraeger
2017-10-30 19:04     ` Tony Krowiak
2017-10-31 19:39 ` Tony Krowiak
2017-11-14 13:57   ` Cornelia Huck
2017-11-16 15:23     ` Tony Krowiak
2017-11-16 16:06       ` Pierre Morel
2017-11-16 17:03         ` Cornelia Huck
2017-11-16 20:25           ` Pierre Morel
2017-11-16 23:35             ` Tony Krowiak
2017-11-17  7:07               ` Pierre Morel
2017-11-17 10:07                 ` Cornelia Huck
2017-11-17 20:28                   ` Tony Krowiak
2017-11-20 17:13                     ` Cornelia Huck
2017-11-21 16:08                       ` Tony Krowiak
2017-11-22 13:47                         ` Cornelia Huck
2017-11-28  0:39                           ` Tony Krowiak
2017-12-05 14:06                             ` Cornelia Huck
2017-12-05 15:09                               ` Tony Krowiak
2017-11-16 16:49       ` Cornelia Huck
2017-11-16 23:41         ` Tony Krowiak
2017-11-17  9:49           ` Cornelia Huck

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