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From: Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>
To: Patrick Bellasi <patrick.bellasi@arm.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"Rafael J . Wysocki" <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>,
	Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	Morten Rasmussen <morten.rasmussen@arm.com>,
	Todd Kjos <tkjos@android.com>, Joel Fernandes <joelaf@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/6] cpufreq: schedutil: reset sg_cpus's flags at IDLE enter
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2017 17:45:01 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171130164501.GL9903@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171130161859.GH31247@e110439-lin>

On 30/11/17 16:19, Patrick Bellasi wrote:
> On 30-Nov 17:02, Juri Lelli wrote:
> > On 30/11/17 15:41, Patrick Bellasi wrote:
> > > On 30-Nov 14:12, Juri Lelli wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > > 
> > > > On 30/11/17 11:47, Patrick Bellasi wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > [...]
> > > > 
> > > > > diff --git a/kernel/sched/cpufreq_schedutil.c b/kernel/sched/cpufreq_schedutil.c
> > > > > index 2f52ec0f1539..67339ccb5595 100644
> > > > > --- a/kernel/sched/cpufreq_schedutil.c
> > > > > +++ b/kernel/sched/cpufreq_schedutil.c
> > > > > @@ -347,6 +347,12 @@ static void sugov_update_shared(struct update_util_data *hook, u64 time,
> > > > >  
> > > > >  	sg_cpu->util = util;
> > > > >  	sg_cpu->max = max;
> > > > > +
> > > > > +	/* CPU is entering IDLE, reset flags without triggering an update */
> > > > > +	if (unlikely(flags & SCHED_CPUFREQ_IDLE)) {
> > > > > +		sg_cpu->flags = 0;
> > > > > +		goto done;
> > > > > +	}
> > > > 
> > > > Looks good for now. I'm just thinking that we will happen for DL, as a
> > > > CPU that still "has" a sleeping task is not going to be really idle
> > > > until the 0-lag time.
> > > 
> > > AFAIU, for the time being, DL already cannot really rely on this flag
> > > for its behaviors to be correct. Indeed, flags are reset as soon as
> > > a FAIR task wakes up and it's enqueued.
> > 
> > Right, and your flags ORing patch should help with this.
> > 
> > > 
> > > Only once your DL integration patches are in, we do not depends on
> > > flags anymore since DL will report a ceratain utilization up to the
> > > 0-lag time, isn't it?
> > 
> > Utilization won't decrease until 0-lag time, correct.
> 
> Then IMO with your DL patches the DL class don't need the flags
> anymore since schedutil will know (and account) for the
> utlization required by the DL tasks. Isn't it?
> 
> > I was just wondering if resetting flags before that time (when a CPU
> > enters idle) might be an issue.
> 
> If the above is correct, then flags will be used only for the RT class (and
> IO boosting)... and thus this patch will still be useful as it is now:
> meaning that once the idle task is selected we do not care anymore
> about RT and IOBoosting (only).
> 
> > > If that's the case, I would say that the flags will be used only to
> > > jump to the max OPP for RT tasks. Thus, this patch should still be valid.
> > > 
> > > > I guess we could move this at that point in time?
> > > 
> > > Not sure what you mean here. Right now the new SCHED_CPUFREQ_IDLE flag
> > > is notified only by idle tasks. That's the only code path where we are
> > > sure the CPU is entering IDLE.
> > > 
> > 
> > W.r.t. the possible issue above, I was thinking that we might want to
> > reset flags at 0-lag time for DL (if CPU is still idle). Anyway, two
> > distinct set of patches. Who gets in last will have to ponder the thing
> > a little bit more. :)
> 
> Perhaps I'm still a bit confused but, to me, it seems that with your
> patches we completely fix DL but we still can use this exact same
> patch just for RT tasks.

We don't use the flags for bailing out during aggregation, so it should
be ok for DL yes.

Thanks,

Juri

  reply	other threads:[~2017-11-30 16:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-11-30 11:47 [PATCH v3 0/6] cpufreq: schedutil: fixes for flags updates Patrick Bellasi
2017-11-30 11:47 ` [PATCH v3 1/6] cpufreq: schedutil: reset sg_cpus's flags at IDLE enter Patrick Bellasi
2017-11-30 13:12   ` Juri Lelli
2017-11-30 15:41     ` Patrick Bellasi
2017-11-30 16:02       ` Juri Lelli
2017-11-30 16:19         ` Patrick Bellasi
2017-11-30 16:45           ` Juri Lelli [this message]
2017-12-07  5:01   ` Viresh Kumar
2017-12-07 12:45     ` Patrick Bellasi
2017-12-07 15:55       ` Dietmar Eggemann
2017-12-12 11:37       ` Viresh Kumar
2017-12-12 13:38         ` Juri Lelli
2017-12-12 14:40           ` Viresh Kumar
2017-12-12 14:56             ` Juri Lelli
2017-12-12 15:18               ` Patrick Bellasi
2017-12-12 15:16         ` Patrick Bellasi
2017-12-13  9:06           ` Viresh Kumar
2017-12-20 14:33   ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-12-20 14:51     ` Patrick Bellasi
2017-11-30 11:47 ` [PATCH v3 2/6] cpufreq: schedutil: ensure max frequency while running RT/DL tasks Patrick Bellasi
2017-11-30 13:17   ` Juri Lelli
2017-11-30 15:45     ` Patrick Bellasi
2017-11-30 16:03       ` Juri Lelli
2017-12-07  5:05   ` Viresh Kumar
2017-12-07 14:18     ` Patrick Bellasi
2017-11-30 11:47 ` [PATCH v3 3/6] cpufreq: schedutil: update CFS util only if used Patrick Bellasi
2017-11-30 13:22   ` Juri Lelli
2017-11-30 15:57     ` Patrick Bellasi
2017-12-07  5:15       ` Viresh Kumar
2017-12-07 14:19         ` Patrick Bellasi
2017-12-14  4:45           ` Viresh Kumar
2017-11-30 11:47 ` [PATCH v3 4/6] sched/rt: fast switch to maximum frequency when RT tasks are scheduled Patrick Bellasi
2017-11-30 13:28   ` Juri Lelli
2017-12-06  9:39   ` Vincent Guittot
2017-12-06 11:38     ` Patrick Bellasi
2017-12-06 12:36       ` Vincent Guittot
2017-11-30 11:47 ` [PATCH v3 5/6] cpufreq: schedutil: relax rate-limiting while running RT/DL tasks Patrick Bellasi
2017-11-30 13:36   ` Juri Lelli
2017-11-30 15:54     ` Patrick Bellasi
2017-11-30 16:06       ` Juri Lelli
2017-11-30 11:47 ` [PATCH v3 6/6] cpufreq: schedutil: ignore sugov kthreads Patrick Bellasi
2017-11-30 13:41   ` Juri Lelli
2017-11-30 16:02     ` Patrick Bellasi
2017-11-30 16:12       ` Juri Lelli
2017-11-30 16:42         ` Patrick Bellasi
2017-12-07  9:24           ` Viresh Kumar
2017-12-07 15:47             ` Patrick Bellasi
2017-12-20 15:30 ` [PATCH v3 0/6] cpufreq: schedutil: fixes for flags updates Peter Zijlstra
2017-12-20 15:43   ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-12-21  9:15     ` Viresh Kumar
2017-12-21 10:25       ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-12-21 10:30         ` Viresh Kumar
2017-12-21 10:39           ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-12-21 10:43             ` Viresh Kumar
2017-12-22  8:30               ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-12-20 15:56   ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-12-31  9:43     ` Claudio Scordino
2018-01-02 13:31       ` Claudio Scordino
2017-12-20 17:38   ` Juri Lelli
2017-12-20 18:16     ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-12-22 10:06     ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-12-22 11:02       ` Patrick Bellasi
2017-12-22 11:46         ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-12-22 12:07           ` Juri Lelli
2017-12-22 12:14             ` Patrick Bellasi
2017-12-22 12:22               ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-12-22 12:07           ` Patrick Bellasi
2017-12-22 12:19             ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-12-22 12:27               ` Juri Lelli
2017-12-22 12:38               ` Patrick Bellasi
2017-12-22 12:43                 ` Juri Lelli
2017-12-22 12:50                   ` Patrick Bellasi
2017-12-22 13:01                     ` Juri Lelli
2017-12-22 12:10           ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-12-22 12:25             ` Patrick Bellasi
2017-12-21  7:34   ` Viresh Kumar
2018-02-06 10:55   ` Claudio Scordino
2018-02-06 15:43     ` Patrick Bellasi
     [not found]       ` <68afaf84-893e-6770-b9f1-619cd2b6dc9c@evidence.eu.com>
2018-02-06 18:36         ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-02-08 16:14           ` Claudio Scordino

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