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From: Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	John Ogness <john.ogness@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [BUG] lock_parent() breakage when used from shrink_dentry_list() (was Re: [PATCH v2 6/6] fs/dcache: Avoid remaining try_lock loop in shrink_dentry_list())
Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2018 07:40:05 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180225073950.GI30522@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180224002248.GH30522@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>

On Sat, Feb 24, 2018 at 12:22:48AM +0000, Al Viro wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 01:35:52PM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> 
> > This is too subtle, and your fix to check d_lockref.count < 0 sounds
> > wrong to me. If it's really gone, maybe it has been reused and the
> > refcount is positive again, but it's something else than a dentry
> > entirely?
> > 
> > Hmm.
> > 
> > No, you extended the rcu read section, so I guess your patch is fine.
> > And lock_parent already has that pattern, soiit's not new.
> > 
> > Ok, I agree, looks like lock_parent should just re-check that thing
> > that it already checked earler, but that now might be true again
> > because of we dropped d_lock.
> 
> IMO that's the right thing for backports; whether we keep it after
> the getting rid of trylock loops is a different question.  Note that
> the only case where we do not have __dentry_kill() prevention
> guaranteed by the caller (either by holding a reference, or by
> holding onto ->i_lock all along) is in shrink_dentry_list().
> And there we have more than enough of other subtle crap.
> 
> Moreover, there we have a good reason to treat "it had been moved"
> as "kick it off the shrink list and free if it's already dead",
> which might simplify the things.  Below is a stab at that:

FWIW, a variant of that series is in #work.dcache; it's
almost certainly not the final (I want to clean the things up
and probably reorder them as well) and it needs one hell of
profiling and review.  It seems to work, and I don't see any
obvious performance regressions (everything seems to be within
normal noise), but I'd like it beaten up a lot more.

Parts are from John's series, parts are rewritten as discussed
upthread.  As the result, trylock loops are gone and no new
retry loops had been added in their place - lock_parent() still
has one, but that's it.

I'll play with cleaning up and reordering tomorrow after I get
some sleep.  In the meanwhile, the current state of that set is at
git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/viro/vfs.git #work.dcache

  reply	other threads:[~2018-02-25  7:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-02-22 23:50 [PATCH v2 0/6] fs/dcache: avoid trylock loops John Ogness
2018-02-22 23:50 ` [PATCH v2 1/6] fs/dcache: Remove stale comment from dentry_kill() John Ogness
2018-02-22 23:50 ` [PATCH v2 2/6] fs/dcache: Move dentry_kill() below lock_parent() John Ogness
2018-02-22 23:50 ` [PATCH v2 3/6] fs/dcache: Avoid the try_lock loop in d_delete() John Ogness
2018-02-23  2:08   ` Al Viro
2018-02-22 23:50 ` [PATCH v2 4/6] fs/dcache: Avoid the try_lock loops in dentry_kill() John Ogness
2018-02-23  2:22   ` Al Viro
2018-02-23  3:12     ` Al Viro
2018-02-23  3:16       ` Al Viro
2018-02-23  5:46       ` Al Viro
2018-02-22 23:50 ` [PATCH v2 5/6] fs/dcache: Avoid a try_lock loop in shrink_dentry_list() John Ogness
2018-02-23  3:48   ` Al Viro
2018-02-22 23:50 ` [PATCH v2 6/6] fs/dcache: Avoid remaining " John Ogness
2018-02-23  3:58   ` Al Viro
2018-02-23  4:08     ` Al Viro
2018-02-23 13:57       ` John Ogness
2018-02-23 15:09         ` Al Viro
2018-02-23 17:42           ` Al Viro
2018-02-23 20:13             ` [BUG] lock_parent() breakage when used from shrink_dentry_list() (was Re: [PATCH v2 6/6] fs/dcache: Avoid remaining try_lock loop in shrink_dentry_list()) Al Viro
2018-02-23 21:35               ` Linus Torvalds
2018-02-24  0:22                 ` Al Viro
2018-02-25  7:40                   ` Al Viro [this message]
2018-02-27  5:16                     ` dcache: remove trylock loops (was Re: [BUG] lock_parent() breakage when used from shrink_dentry_list()) John Ogness
2018-03-12 19:13                       ` Al Viro
2018-03-12 20:05                         ` Al Viro
2018-03-12 20:33                           ` Al Viro
2018-03-13  1:12                           ` NeilBrown
2018-04-28  0:10                             ` Al Viro
2018-03-12 20:23                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-03-12 20:39                           ` Al Viro
2018-03-12 23:28                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-03-12 23:52                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-03-13  0:37                                 ` Al Viro
2018-03-13  0:50                                   ` Al Viro
2018-03-13  4:02                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-03-14 23:20                                     ` [PATCH] fs: Teach path_connected to handle nfs filesystems with multiple roots Eric W. Biederman
2018-03-15 22:34                                       ` Al Viro
2018-03-13  0:36                               ` dcache: remove trylock loops (was Re: [BUG] lock_parent() breakage when used from shrink_dentry_list()) Al Viro
2018-03-12 22:14                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-03-13 20:46                         ` John Ogness
2018-03-13 21:05                           ` John Ogness
2018-03-13 23:59                             ` Al Viro
2018-03-14  2:58                               ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-03-14  8:18                               ` John Ogness
2018-03-02  9:04                     ` [BUG] lock_parent() breakage when used from shrink_dentry_list() (was Re: [PATCH v2 6/6] fs/dcache: Avoid remaining try_lock loop in shrink_dentry_list()) Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2018-02-23  0:59 ` [PATCH v2 0/6] fs/dcache: avoid trylock loops Linus Torvalds

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