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From: "Michal Suchánek" <msuchanek@suse.de>
To: Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>
Cc: "Kate Stewart" <kstewart@linuxfoundation.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC rebase 3/9] powerpc/64: Use barrier_nospec in syscall entry
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2018 10:15:49 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180316101549.31238bdf@naga.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180316151823.2f28d5ea@roar.ozlabs.ibm.com>

Hello,

On Fri, 16 Mar 2018 15:18:23 +1000
Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 15 Mar 2018 20:15:52 +0100
> Michal Suchanek <msuchanek@suse.de> wrote:
> 
> > On powerpc syscall entry is done in assembly so patch in an explicit
> > barrier_nospec.  
> 
> Same comment as Linus for this -- the barriers are before the branch
> here, so is it possible the branch instruction can be speculative
> while the index is used to load the syscall table?

As far as I understand barriers they separate code before the barrier
and code after the barrier.

So inserting barrier_nospec after cmpldi means that the result of the
cmpldi has to be known before any instruction following barrier_nospec
that depends on the result can be executed. 

In many cases it is useful to put the barrier after a branch. It allows
the compiler to speculate on the computed value at compile time and if
it is constrained optimize out the branch. It may also result in the
need to include many barriers and less readable code.

However, you have probably knowledge of the powerpc implementation of
the barrier so if the semantic is actually different then please
enlighten me.

Thanks

Michal

  reply	other threads:[~2018-03-16  9:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-03-13 18:32 [PATCH RFC 0/8] powerpc barrier_nospec Michal Suchanek
2018-03-13 18:32 ` [PATCH RFC 1/8] powerpc: Add barrier_nospec Michal Suchanek
2018-03-13 20:01   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-03-15 19:15     ` [PATCH RFC rebase 0/9] powerpc barrier_nospec Michal Suchanek
2018-03-15 19:15       ` [PATCH RFC rebase 1/9] powerpc: Add barrier_nospec Michal Suchanek
2018-03-15 19:15       ` [PATCH RFC rebase 2/9] powerpc: Use barrier_nospec in copy_from_user Michal Suchanek
2018-03-15 21:37         ` Linus Torvalds
2018-03-16 13:22           ` Michael Ellerman
2018-03-15 19:15       ` [PATCH RFC rebase 3/9] powerpc/64: Use barrier_nospec in syscall entry Michal Suchanek
2018-03-16  5:18         ` Nicholas Piggin
2018-03-16  9:15           ` Michal Suchánek [this message]
2018-03-16 10:46             ` Nicholas Piggin
2018-03-16 13:28             ` Michael Ellerman
2018-03-16 17:08             ` Linus Torvalds
2018-03-15 19:15       ` [PATCH RFC rebase 4/9] powerpc/64s: Use barrier_nospec in RFI_FLUSH_SLOT Michal Suchanek
2018-03-15 19:15       ` [PATCH RFC rebase 5/9] powerpc/64s: Add support for ori barrier_nospec patching Michal Suchanek
2018-03-15 19:15       ` [PATCH RFC rebase 6/9] powerpc/64: Patch barrier_nospec in modules Michal Suchanek
2018-03-15 19:15       ` [PATCH RFC rebase 7/9] powerpc/64: barrier_nospec: Add debugfs trigger Michal Suchanek
2018-03-15 19:15       ` [PATCH RFC rebase 8/9] powerpc/64s: barrier_nospec: Add hcall triggerr Michal Suchanek
2018-03-15 19:15       ` [PATCH RFC rebase 9/9] powerpc/64: barrier_nospec: Add commandline trigger Michal Suchanek
2018-03-23 15:59         ` Diana Madalina Craciun
2018-03-16  8:08       ` [PATCH RFC rebase 0/9] powerpc barrier_nospec Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-03-16  9:31         ` Michal Suchánek
2018-03-13 18:33 ` [PATCH RFC 2/8] powerpc: Use barrier_nospec in copy_from_user Michal Suchanek
2018-03-13 18:33 ` [PATCH RFC 3/8] powerpc/64: Use barrier_nospec in syscall entry Michal Suchanek
2018-03-13 18:33 ` [PATCH RFC 4/8] powerpc/64s: Add support for ori barrier_nospec Michal Suchanek
2018-03-13 18:33 ` [PATCH RFC 5/8] powerpc/64: Patch barrier_nospec in modules Michal Suchanek
2018-03-13 18:33 ` [PATCH RFC 6/8] powerpc/64: barrier_nospec: Add debugfs trigger Michal Suchanek
2018-03-13 18:33 ` [PATCH RFC 7/8] powerpc/64s: barrier_nospec: Add hcall triggerr Michal Suchanek
2018-03-13 18:33 ` [PATCH RFC 8/8] powerpc/64: barrier_nospec: Add commandline trigger Michal Suchanek

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