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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Cc: Rasmus Villemoes <linux@rasmusvillemoes.dk>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Kirill Tkhai <ktkhai@virtuozzo.com>,
	Matthew Wilcox <mawilcox@microsoft.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/4] mm: Add free()
Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2018 10:50:59 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180403085059.GB3926@amd> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180323143435.GB5624@bombadil.infradead.org>

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Hi!

> > And sure, your free() implementation obviously also has that property,
> > but I'm worried that they might one day decide to warn about the
> > prototype mismatch (actually, I'm surprised it doesn't warn now, given
> > that it obviously pretends to know what free() function I'm calling...),
> > or make some crazy optimization that will break stuff in very subtle ways.
> > 
> > Also, we probably don't want people starting to use free() (or whatever
> > name is chosen) if they do know the kind of memory they're freeing?
> > Maybe it should not be advertised that widely (i.e., in kernel.h).
> 
> All that you've said I see as an advantage, not a disadvantage.
> Maybe I should change the prototype to match the userspace
> free(), although gcc is deliberately lax about the constness of
> function arguments when determining compatibility with builtins.
> See match_builtin_function_types() if you're really curious.
> 
> gcc already does some nice optimisations around free().  For example, it
> can eliminate dead stores:

Are we comfortable with that optimalization for kernel?

us: "Hey, let's remove those encryption keys before freeing memory."
gcc: :-).

us: "Hey, we want to erase lock magic values not to cause confusion
later."
gcc: "I like confusion!"

Yes, these probably can be fixed by strategic "volatile" and/or
barriers, but...
									Pavel
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  reply	other threads:[~2018-04-03  8:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-03-22 19:58 [PATCH 0/4] Add free() function Matthew Wilcox
2018-03-22 19:58 ` [PATCH 1/4] decompression: Rename malloc and free Matthew Wilcox
2018-03-22 19:58 ` [PATCH 2/4] Rename 'free' functions Matthew Wilcox
2018-03-22 19:58 ` [PATCH 3/4] mm: Add free() Matthew Wilcox
2018-03-23  8:04   ` Rasmus Villemoes
2018-03-23 14:34     ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-04-03  8:50       ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2018-04-03 11:41         ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-03-23 13:33   ` Kirill Tkhai
2018-03-23 15:14     ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-03-23 15:49       ` Kirill Tkhai
2018-03-23 16:15       ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-03-25 23:56       ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-03-24  7:38   ` kbuild test robot
2018-03-22 19:58 ` [PATCH 4/4] rcu: Switch to using free() instead of kfree() Matthew Wilcox
2018-03-24  7:07   ` kbuild test robot
2018-03-24  8:20   ` kbuild test robot

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