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From: Roman Gushchin <guro@fb.com>
To: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
Cc: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>, <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
	<kernel-team@fb.com>, Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: don't show nr_indirectly_reclaimable in /proc/vmstat
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2018 11:55:54 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180427105549.GA8127@castle.DHCP.thefacebook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <99208563-1171-b7e7-a0d7-b47b6c5e2307@suse.cz>

On Fri, Apr 27, 2018 at 11:17:01AM +0200, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
> On 04/26/2018 11:55 PM, David Rientjes wrote:
> > On Thu, 26 Apr 2018, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > 
> >>> Don't show nr_indirectly_reclaimable in /proc/vmstat,
> >>> because there is no need in exporting this vm counter
> >>> to the userspace, and some changes are expected
> >>> in reclaimable object accounting, which can alter
> >>> this counter.
> >>>
> >>> Signed-off-by: Roman Gushchin <guro@fb.com>
> >>> Cc: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
> >>> Cc: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
> >>> Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
> >>> Cc: Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
> >>> Cc: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
> >>> Cc: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
> >>
> >> This is quite a hack. I would much rather revert the counter and fixed
> >> it the way Vlastimil has proposed. But if there is a strong opposition
> >> to the revert then this is probably the simples thing to do. Therefore
> >>
> > 
> > Implementing this counter as a vmstat doesn't make much sense based on how 
> > it's used.  Do you have a link to what Vlastimil proposed?  I haven't seen 
> > mention of alternative ideas.
> 
> It was in the original thread, see e.g.
> <08524819-14ef-81d0-fa90-d7af13c6b9d5@suse.cz>
> 
> However it will take some time to get that in mainline, and meanwhile
> the current implementation does prevent a DOS. So I doubt it can be
> fully reverted - as a compromise I just didn't want the counter to
> become ABI. TBH though, other people at LSF/MM didn't seem concerned
> that /proc/vmstat is an ABI that we can't change (i.e. counters have
> been presumably removed in the past already).
> 

Thank you, Vlastimil!
That pretty much matches my understanding of the case.

BTW, are you planning to work on supporting reclaimable objects
by slab allocators?

Thanks!

  reply	other threads:[~2018-04-27 10:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-04-25 19:14 [PATCH] mm: don't show nr_indirectly_reclaimable in /proc/vmstat Roman Gushchin
2018-04-25 19:36 ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-04-25 19:37 ` David Rientjes
2018-04-25 21:01   ` Roman Gushchin
2018-04-25 21:20     ` David Rientjes
2018-04-26 20:03 ` Michal Hocko
2018-04-26 21:55   ` David Rientjes
2018-04-27  9:17     ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-04-27 10:55       ` Roman Gushchin [this message]
2018-04-27 11:06         ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-04-27 18:41       ` David Rientjes
2018-04-27 18:57         ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-04-30 15:30         ` Vlastimil Babka

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