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From: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Cc: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Kirill Tkhai <ktkhai@virtuozzo.com>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, peterz@infradead.org, oleg@redhat.com,
	viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, mingo@kernel.org,
	paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com, keescook@chromium.org,
	riel@redhat.com, tglx@linutronix.de,
	kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com, marcos.souza.org@gmail.com,
	hoeun.ryu@gmail.com, pasha.tatashin@oracle.com,
	gs051095@gmail.com, dhowells@redhat.com, rppt@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] memcg: Replace mm->owner with mm->memcg
Date: Wed, 2 May 2018 09:20:26 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180502132026.GB16060@cmpxchg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180502084708.GC26305@dhcp22.suse.cz>

Hi Eric,

On Wed, May 02, 2018 at 10:47:08AM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
> [CC johannes and Tejun as well. I am sorry but my backlog is so huge I
> will not get to this week.]
> 
> On Tue 01-05-18 12:35:16, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> > Recently it was reported that mm_update_next_owner could get into
> > cases where it was executing it's fallback for_each_process part of
> > the loop and thus taking up a lot of time.
> > 
> > To deal with this replace mm->owner with mm->memcg.  This just reduces
> > the complexity of everything.  As much as possible I have maintained
> > the current semantics.  There are two siginificant exceptions.  During
> > fork the memcg of the process calling fork is charged rather than
> > init_css_set.  During memory cgroup migration the charges are migrated
> > not if the process is the owner of the mm, but if the process being
> > migrated has the same memory cgroup as the mm.
> > 
> > I believe it was a bug if init_css_set is charged for memory activity
> > during fork, and the old behavior was simply a consequence of the new
> > task not having tsk->cgroup not initialized to it's proper cgroup.
> > 
> > Durhing cgroup migration only thread group leaders are allowed to
> > migrate.  Which means in practice there should only be one.  Linux
> > tasks created with CLONE_VM are the only exception, but the common
> > cases are already ruled out.  Processes created with vfork have a
> > suspended parent and can do nothing but call exec so they should never
> > show up.  Threads of the same cgroup are not the thread group leader
> > so also should not show up.  That leaves the old LinuxThreads library
> > which is probably out of use by now, and someone doing something very
> > creative with cgroups, and rolling their own threads with CLONE_VM.
> > So in practice I don't think the difference charge migration will
> > affect anyone.
> > 
> > To ensure that mm->memcg is updated appropriately I have implemented
> > cgroup "attach" and "fork" methods.  This ensures that at those
> > points the mm pointed to the task has the appropriate memory cgroup.
> > 
> > For simplicity instead of introducing a new mm lock I simply use
> > exchange on the pointer where the mm->memcg is updated to get
> > atomic updates.
> > 
> > Looking at the history effectively this change is a revert.  The
> > reason given for adding mm->owner is so that multiple cgroups can be
> > attached to the same mm.  In the last 8 years a second user of
> > mm->owner has not appeared.  A feature that has never used, makes the
> > code more complicated and has horrible worst case performance should
> > go.
> > 
> > Fixes: cf475ad28ac3 ("cgroups: add an owner to the mm_struct")
> > Reported-by:  Kirill Tkhai <ktkhai@virtuozzo.com>
> > Signed-off-by: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>

I really like this. The multiple css per mm future that was referenced
in cf475ad28ac3's changelog never materialized, so there is no need to
always go through the task just to have the full css_set.

> > @@ -4827,15 +4813,16 @@ static int mem_cgroup_can_attach(struct cgroup_taskset *tset)
> >  	if (!move_flags)
> >  		return 0;
> >  
> > -	from = mem_cgroup_from_task(p);
> > +	from = mem_cgroup_from_css(task_css(p, memory_cgrp_id));
> >  
> >  	VM_BUG_ON(from == memcg);
> >  
> >  	mm = get_task_mm(p);
> >  	if (!mm)
> >  		return 0;
> > +
> >  	/* We move charges only when we move a owner of the mm */
> > -	if (mm->owner == p) {
> > +	if (mm->memcg == from) {
> >  		VM_BUG_ON(mc.from);
> >  		VM_BUG_ON(mc.to);
> >  		VM_BUG_ON(mc.precharge);

mm->memcg is updated on every single ->attach(), so this can only
happen to a task when a CLONE_VM sibling is moved out of its
group. Essentially, in the new scheme the "owner" is whichever task
with that mm migrated most recently.

I agree that it's hard to conjure up a practical usecase that would
straddle mms like this over multiple cgroups - especially given how
the memory charges themselves can only belong to one cgroup, too. So
in practice task->mm->memcg will always be task->css_set[memory].

But could you please update the comment to outline the cornercase?
"owner" isn't really a thing anymore after this patch.

Oh, and mm/debug.c::dump_mm() still refers to mm->owner, that needs to
be switched to mm->memcg as well.

Aside from that, this looks great to me. For the fixed version:

Acked-by: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>

  reply	other threads:[~2018-05-02 13:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-04-26 11:00 [PATCH 0/4] exit: Make unlikely case in mm_update_next_owner() more scalable Kirill Tkhai
2018-04-26 11:00 ` [PATCH 1/4] exit: Move read_unlock() up in mm_update_next_owner() Kirill Tkhai
2018-04-26 15:01   ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-04-26 11:00 ` [PATCH 2/4] exit: Use rcu instead of get_task_struct() " Kirill Tkhai
2018-04-26 11:00 ` [PATCH 3/4] exit: Rename assign_new_owner label " Kirill Tkhai
2018-04-26 11:01 ` [PATCH 4/4] exit: Lockless iteration over task list " Kirill Tkhai
2018-04-26 12:35   ` Andrea Parri
2018-04-26 13:52     ` Kirill Tkhai
2018-04-26 15:20       ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-04-26 15:56         ` Kirill Tkhai
2018-04-26 15:20       ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-04-26 16:04         ` Kirill Tkhai
2018-04-26 15:29       ` Andrea Parri
2018-04-26 16:11         ` Kirill Tkhai
2018-04-26 13:07 ` [PATCH 0/4] exit: Make unlikely case in mm_update_next_owner() more scalable Michal Hocko
2018-04-26 13:52   ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-04-26 14:07   ` Kirill Tkhai
2018-04-26 15:10     ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-04-26 16:19   ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-04-26 19:28     ` Michal Hocko
2018-04-27  7:08       ` Michal Hocko
2018-04-27 18:05         ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-05-01 17:22           ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-05-01 17:35             ` [RFC][PATCH] memcg: Replace mm->owner with mm->memcg Eric W. Biederman
2018-05-02  8:47               ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-02 13:20                 ` Johannes Weiner [this message]
2018-05-02 14:05                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-05-02 19:21                   ` [PATCH] " Eric W. Biederman
2018-05-02 21:04                     ` Andrew Morton
2018-05-02 21:35                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-05-03 13:33                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-05-03 14:39                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-05-04 14:20                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-05-04 14:36                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-05-04 14:54                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-05-04 15:49                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-05-04 16:22                                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-05-04 16:40                                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-05-04 17:26                                     ` [PATCH 0/2] mm->owner to mm->memcg fixes Eric W. Biederman
2018-05-04 17:26                                       ` [PATCH 1/2] memcg: Update the mm->memcg maintenance to work when !CONFIG_MMU Eric W. Biederman
2018-05-04 17:27                                       ` [PATCH 2/2] memcg: Close the race between migration and installing bprm->mm as mm Eric W. Biederman
2018-05-09 14:51                                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-05-10  3:00                                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-05-10 12:14                                       ` [PATCH 0/2] mm->owner to mm->memcg fixes Michal Hocko
2018-05-10 12:18                                         ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-22 12:57                                         ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-23 19:46                                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-05-24 11:10                                             ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-24 21:16                                               ` Andrew Morton
2018-05-24 23:37                                                 ` Andrea Parri
2018-05-30 12:17                                                 ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-31 18:41                                                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-06-01  1:57                                                     ` [PATCH] memcg: Replace mm->owner with mm->memcg Eric W. Biederman
2018-06-01 14:52                                                       ` [RFC][PATCH 0/2] memcg: Require every task that uses an mm to migrate together Eric W. Biederman
2018-06-01 14:53                                                         ` [RFC][PATCH 1/2] memcg: Ensure every task that uses an mm is in the same memory cgroup Eric W. Biederman
2018-06-01 16:50                                                           ` Tejun Heo
2018-06-01 18:11                                                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-06-01 19:16                                                               ` Tejun Heo
2018-06-04 13:01                                                                 ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-04 18:47                                                                   ` Tejun Heo
2018-06-04 19:11                                                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-06-06 11:13                                                           ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-07 11:42                                                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-06-07 12:19                                                               ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-01 14:53                                                         ` [RFC][PATCH 2/2] memcgl: Remove dead code now that all tasks of an mm share a memcg Eric W. Biederman
2018-06-01 14:07                                                     ` [PATCH 0/2] mm->owner to mm->memcg fixes Michal Hocko
2018-05-24 21:17                                               ` Andrew Morton
2018-05-30 11:52                                             ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-31 17:43                                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-05-07 14:33                                     ` [PATCH] memcg: Replace mm->owner with mm->memcg Oleg Nesterov
2018-05-08  3:15                                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-05-09 14:40                                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-05-10  3:09                                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-05-10  4:03                                             ` [RFC][PATCH] cgroup: Don't mess with tasks in exec Eric W. Biederman
2018-05-10 12:15                                               ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-05-10 12:35                                                 ` Tejun Heo
2018-05-10 12:38                                             ` [PATCH] memcg: Replace mm->owner with mm->memcg Oleg Nesterov
2018-05-04 11:07                     ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-05 16:54                     ` kbuild test robot
2018-05-07 23:18                       ` Andrew Morton
2018-05-08  2:17                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-05-09 21:00                         ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-02 23:59               ` [RFC][PATCH] " Balbir Singh
2018-05-03 15:11                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-05-04  4:59                   ` Balbir Singh
2018-05-03 10:52           ` [PATCH 0/4] exit: Make unlikely case in mm_update_next_owner() more scalable Kirill Tkhai
2018-06-01  1:07   ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-06-01 13:57     ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-01 14:32       ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-06-01 15:02         ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-01 15:25           ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-06-04  6:54             ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-04 14:31               ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-06-05  8:15                 ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-05  8:48             ` Kirill Tkhai
2018-06-05 15:36               ` Eric W. Biederman

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