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From: Srikar Dronamraju <srikar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 16/19] sched/numa: Detect if node actively handling migration
Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2018 20:56:16 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180605035616.GD30328@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1528142755.7898.122.camel@surriel.com>

* Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com> [2018-06-04 16:05:55]:

> On Mon, 2018-06-04 at 15:30 +0530, Srikar Dronamraju wrote:
> 
> > @@ -1554,6 +1562,9 @@ static void task_numa_compare(struct
> > task_numa_env *env,
> >  	if (READ_ONCE(dst_rq->numa_migrate_on))
> >  		return;
> >  
> > +	if (*move && READ_ONCE(pgdat->active_node_migrate))
> > +		*move = false;
> 
> Why not do this check in task_numa_find_cpu?
> 
> That way you won't have to pass this in as a
> pointer, and you also will not have to recalculate
> NODE_DATA(cpu_to_node(env->dst_cpu)) for every CPU.
> 

I thought about this. Lets say we evaluated that destination node can
allow movement. While we iterate through the list of cpus trying to find
the best cpu node, we find a idle cpu towards the end of the list.
However if another task as already raced with us to move a task to this
node, then we should bail out. Keeping the check in task_numa_compare
will allow us to do this.

> >  	/*
> > +	 * If the numa importance is less than SMALLIMP,
> 
>               ^^^ numa improvement
> 

okay

> > +	 * task migration might only result in ping pong
> > +	 * of tasks and also hurt performance due to cache
> > +	 * misses.
> > +	 */
> > +	if (imp < SMALLIMP || imp <= env->best_imp + SMALLIMP / 2)
> > +		goto unlock;
> 
> I can see a use for the first test, but why limit the
> search for the best score once you are past the
> threshold?
> 
> I don't understand the use for that second test.
> 

Lets say few threads are racing with each other to find a cpu on the
node. The first thread has already found a task/cpu 'A' to swap and
finds another task/cpu 'B' thats slightly better than the current
best_cpu which is 'A'. Currently we allow the second task/cpu 'B' to be
set as best_cpu. However the second or subsequent threads cannot find
the first task/cpu A because its suppose to be in active migration. By
the time it reaches task/cpu B even that may look to be in active
migration. It may never know that task/cpu A was cleared. In this way,
the second and subsequent threads may not get a task/cpu in the
preferred node to swap just because the first task kept hopping task/cpu
as its choice of migration.

While we can't complete avoid this, the second check will try to make
sure we don't hop on/hop off just for small incremental numa
improvement.



> What workload benefits from it?

> 
> -- 
> All Rights Reversed.

  reply	other threads:[~2018-06-05  3:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-06-04 10:00 [PATCH 00/19] Fixes for sched/numa_balancing Srikar Dronamraju
2018-06-04 10:00 ` [PATCH 01/19] sched/numa: Remove redundant field Srikar Dronamraju
2018-06-04 14:53   ` Rik van Riel
2018-06-05  8:41   ` Mel Gorman
2018-06-04 10:00 ` [PATCH 02/19] sched/numa: Evaluate move once per node Srikar Dronamraju
2018-06-04 14:51   ` Rik van Riel
2018-06-04 15:45     ` Srikar Dronamraju
2018-06-04 10:00 ` [PATCH 03/19] sched/numa: Simplify load_too_imbalanced Srikar Dronamraju
2018-06-04 14:57   ` Rik van Riel
2018-06-05  8:46   ` Mel Gorman
2018-06-04 10:00 ` [PATCH 04/19] sched/numa: Set preferred_node based on best_cpu Srikar Dronamraju
2018-06-04 12:18   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-04 12:53     ` Srikar Dronamraju
2018-06-04 12:23   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-04 12:59     ` Srikar Dronamraju
2018-06-04 13:39       ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-04 13:48         ` Srikar Dronamraju
2018-06-04 14:37       ` Rik van Riel
2018-06-04 15:56         ` Srikar Dronamraju
2018-06-04 10:00 ` [PATCH 05/19] sched/numa: Use task faults only if numa_group is not yet setup Srikar Dronamraju
2018-06-04 12:24   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-04 13:09     ` Srikar Dronamraju
2018-06-04 10:00 ` [PATCH 06/19] sched/debug: Reverse the order of printing faults Srikar Dronamraju
2018-06-04 16:28   ` Rik van Riel
2018-06-05  8:50   ` Mel Gorman
2018-06-04 10:00 ` [PATCH 07/19] sched/numa: Skip nodes that are at hoplimit Srikar Dronamraju
2018-06-04 16:27   ` Rik van Riel
2018-06-05  8:50   ` Mel Gorman
2018-06-04 10:00 ` [PATCH 08/19] sched/numa: Remove unused task_capacity from numa_stats Srikar Dronamraju
2018-06-04 16:28   ` Rik van Riel
2018-06-05  8:57   ` Mel Gorman
2018-06-04 10:00 ` [PATCH 09/19] sched/numa: Modify migrate_swap to accept additional params Srikar Dronamraju
2018-06-04 17:00   ` Rik van Riel
2018-06-05  8:58   ` Mel Gorman
2018-06-04 10:00 ` [PATCH 10/19] sched/numa: Stop multiple tasks from moving to the cpu at the same time Srikar Dronamraju
2018-06-04 17:57   ` Rik van Riel
2018-06-05  9:51   ` Mel Gorman
2018-06-04 10:00 ` [PATCH 11/19] sched/numa: Restrict migrating in parallel to the same node Srikar Dronamraju
2018-06-04 17:59   ` Rik van Riel
2018-06-05  9:53   ` Mel Gorman
2018-06-06 12:58     ` Srikar Dronamraju
2018-06-04 10:00 ` [PATCH 12/19] sched:numa Remove numa_has_capacity Srikar Dronamraju
2018-06-04 18:07   ` Rik van Riel
2018-06-04 10:00 ` [PATCH 13/19] mm/migrate: Use xchg instead of spinlock Srikar Dronamraju
2018-06-04 18:22   ` Rik van Riel
2018-06-04 19:28   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-05  7:24     ` Srikar Dronamraju
2018-06-05  8:16       ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-04 10:00 ` [PATCH 14/19] sched/numa: Updation of scan period need not be in lock Srikar Dronamraju
2018-06-04 18:24   ` Rik van Riel
2018-06-04 10:00 ` [PATCH 15/19] sched/numa: Use group_weights to identify if migration degrades locality Srikar Dronamraju
2018-06-04 18:56   ` Rik van Riel
2018-06-04 10:00 ` [PATCH 16/19] sched/numa: Detect if node actively handling migration Srikar Dronamraju
2018-06-04 20:05   ` Rik van Riel
2018-06-05  3:56     ` Srikar Dronamraju [this message]
2018-06-05 13:07       ` Rik van Riel
2018-06-06 12:55         ` Srikar Dronamraju
2018-06-06 13:55           ` Rik van Riel
2018-06-06 15:32             ` Srikar Dronamraju
2018-06-06 17:06               ` Rik van Riel
2018-06-04 10:00 ` [PATCH 17/19] sched/numa: Pass destination cpu as a parameter to migrate_task_rq Srikar Dronamraju
2018-06-04 10:00 ` [PATCH 18/19] sched/numa: Reset scan rate whenever task moves across nodes Srikar Dronamraju
2018-06-04 20:08   ` Rik van Riel
2018-06-05  9:58   ` Mel Gorman
2018-06-06 13:47     ` Srikar Dronamraju
2018-06-04 10:00 ` [PATCH 19/19] sched/numa: Move task_placement closer to numa_migrate_preferred Srikar Dronamraju

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