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From: Patrick Bellasi <patrick.bellasi@arm.com>
To: Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>
Cc: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"open list:THERMAL" <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"Rafael J . Wysocki" <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>,
	Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	Morten Rasmussen <morten.rasmussen@arm.com>,
	Joel Fernandes <joelaf@google.com>,
	Steve Muckle <smuckle@google.com>, Todd Kjos <tkjos@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] sched/fair: util_est: add running_sum tracking
Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2018 17:54:31 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180605165431.GF32302@e110439-lin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180605153105.GM16081@localhost.localdomain>

On 05-Jun 17:31, Juri Lelli wrote:
> On 05/06/18 16:11, Patrick Bellasi wrote:
> 
> [...]
> 
> > If I run an experiment with your example above, while using the
> > performance governor to rule out any possible scale invariance
> > difference, here is what I measure:
> > 
> >    Task1 (40ms delayed by the following Task2):
> >                                mean          std     max
> >       running_avg        455.387449    22.940168   492.0
> >       util_avg           433.233288    17.395477   458.0
> > 
> >    Task2 (waking up at same time of Task1 and running before):
> >                                mean          std     max
> >       running_avg        430.281834    22.405175   455.0
> >       util_avg           421.745331    22.098873   456.0
> > 
> > and if I compare Task1 above with another experiment where Task1 is
> > running alone:
> > 
> >    Task1 (running alone):
> >                                mean          std     min
> >       running_avg        460.257895    22.103704   460.0
> >       util_avg           435.119737    17.647556   461.0
> 
> Wait, why again in this last case running_avg != util_avg? :)

I _think_ it's mostly due to the rouding errors we have because of the
reasons I've explained in the reply to Joel:

   https://lkml.org/lkml/2018/6/5/559
   20180605152156.GD32302@e110439-lin

at the end, while commenting about the division overhead.

I should try the above examples while tracking the full signal at
___update_load_avg() time.

-- 
#include <best/regards.h>

Patrick Bellasi

  reply	other threads:[~2018-06-05 16:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-06-04 16:05 [PATCH 0/2] Improve estimated utilization of preempted FAIR tasks Patrick Bellasi
2018-06-04 16:05 ` [PATCH 1/2] sched/fair: pelt: use u32 for util_avg Patrick Bellasi
2018-06-05  1:30   ` kbuild test robot
2018-06-05  1:34   ` kbuild test robot
2018-06-04 16:06 ` [PATCH 2/2] sched/fair: util_est: add running_sum tracking Patrick Bellasi
2018-06-04 17:46   ` Joel Fernandes
2018-06-05 15:21     ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-06-05 19:33       ` Joel Fernandes
2018-06-05 19:43         ` Joel Fernandes
2018-06-05  1:29   ` kbuild test robot
2018-06-05  6:57   ` Vincent Guittot
2018-06-05 15:11     ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-06-05 15:31       ` Juri Lelli
2018-06-05 16:54         ` Patrick Bellasi [this message]
2018-06-05 20:46           ` Joel Fernandes
2018-06-05 23:15             ` Saravana Kannan
2018-06-06  8:26       ` Vincent Guittot
2018-06-06 10:38         ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-06-05 10:46   ` kbuild test robot

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