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From: Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>
To: Ricardo Neri <ricardo.neri-calderon@linux.intel.com>
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 12/23] kernel/watchdog: Introduce a struct for NMI watchdog operations
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2018 12:32:50 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180614123250.230667f6@roar.ozlabs.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180614013117.GC22652@voyager>

On Wed, 13 Jun 2018 18:31:17 -0700
Ricardo Neri <ricardo.neri-calderon@linux.intel.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 09:52:25PM +1000, Nicholas Piggin wrote:
> > On Wed, 13 Jun 2018 11:26:49 +0200 (CEST)
> > Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de> wrote:
> >   
> > > On Wed, 13 Jun 2018, Peter Zijlstra wrote:  
> > > > On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 05:41:41PM +1000, Nicholas Piggin wrote:    
> > > > > On Tue, 12 Jun 2018 17:57:32 -0700
> > > > > Ricardo Neri <ricardo.neri-calderon@linux.intel.com> wrote:
> > > > >     
> > > > > > Instead of exposing individual functions for the operations of the NMI
> > > > > > watchdog, define a common interface that can be used across multiple
> > > > > > implementations.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > The struct nmi_watchdog_ops is defined for such operations. These initial
> > > > > > definitions include the enable, disable, start, stop, and cleanup
> > > > > > operations.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Only a single NMI watchdog can be used in the system. The operations of
> > > > > > this NMI watchdog are accessed via the new variable nmi_wd_ops. This
> > > > > > variable is set to point the operations of the first NMI watchdog that
> > > > > > initializes successfully. Even though at this moment, the only available
> > > > > > NMI watchdog is the perf-based hardlockup detector. More implementations
> > > > > > can be added in the future.    
> > > > > 
> > > > > Cool, this looks pretty nice at a quick glance. sparc and powerpc at
> > > > > least have their own NMI watchdogs, it would be good to have those
> > > > > converted as well.    
> > > > 
> > > > Yeah, agreed, this looks like half a patch.    
> > > 
> > > Though I'm not seeing the advantage of it. That kind of NMI watchdogs are
> > > low level architecture details so having yet another 'ops' data structure
> > > with a gazillion of callbacks, checks and indirections does not provide
> > > value over the currently available weak stubs.  
> > 
> > The other way to go of course is librify the perf watchdog and make an
> > x86 watchdog that selects between perf and hpet... I also probably
> > prefer that for code such as this, but I wouldn't strongly object to
> > ops struct if I'm not writing the code. It's not that bad is it?  
> 
> My motivation to add the ops was that the hpet and perf watchdog share
> significant portions of code.

Right, a good motivation.

> I could look into creating the library for
> common code and relocate the hpet watchdog into arch/x86 for the hpet-
> specific parts.

If you can investigate that approach, that would be appreciated. I hope
I did not misunderstand you there, Thomas.

Basically you would have perf infrastructure and hpet infrastructure,
and then the x86 watchdog driver will use one or the other of those. The
generic watchdog driver will be just a simple shim that uses the perf
infrastructure. Then hopefully the powerpc driver would require almost
no change.

Thanks,
Nick

  reply	other threads:[~2018-06-14  2:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-06-13  0:57 [RFC PATCH 00/23] Implement an HPET-based hardlockup detector Ricardo Neri
2018-06-13  0:57 ` [RFC PATCH 01/23] x86/apic: Add a parameter for the APIC delivery mode Ricardo Neri
2018-06-13  0:57 ` [RFC PATCH 02/23] genirq: Introduce IRQD_DELIVER_AS_NMI Ricardo Neri
2018-06-13  0:57 ` [RFC PATCH 03/23] genirq: Introduce IRQF_DELIVER_AS_NMI Ricardo Neri
2018-06-13  8:34   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-13  8:59     ` Julien Thierry
2018-06-13  9:20       ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-06-13  9:36         ` Julien Thierry
2018-06-13  9:49           ` Julien Thierry
2018-06-13  9:57           ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-06-13 10:25             ` Julien Thierry
2018-06-13 10:06         ` Marc Zyngier
2018-06-15  2:12           ` Ricardo Neri
2018-06-15  8:01             ` Julien Thierry
2018-06-16  0:39               ` Ricardo Neri
2018-06-16 13:36                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-06-13  0:57 ` [RFC PATCH 04/23] iommu/vt-d/irq_remapping: Add support for IRQCHIP_CAN_DELIVER_AS_NMI Ricardo Neri
2018-06-13  0:57 ` [RFC PATCH 05/23] x86/msi: " Ricardo Neri
2018-06-13  0:57 ` [RFC PATCH 06/23] x86/ioapic: Add support for IRQCHIP_CAN_DELIVER_AS_NMI with interrupt remapping Ricardo Neri
2018-06-13  0:57 ` [RFC PATCH 07/23] x86/hpet: Expose more functions to read and write registers Ricardo Neri
2018-06-13  0:57 ` [RFC PATCH 08/23] x86/hpet: Calculate ticks-per-second in a separate function Ricardo Neri
2018-06-13  0:57 ` [RFC PATCH 09/23] x86/hpet: Reserve timer for the HPET hardlockup detector Ricardo Neri
2018-06-13  0:57 ` [RFC PATCH 10/23] x86/hpet: Relocate flag definitions to a header file Ricardo Neri
2018-06-13  0:57 ` [RFC PATCH 11/23] x86/hpet: Configure the timer used by the hardlockup detector Ricardo Neri
2018-06-13  0:57 ` [RFC PATCH 12/23] kernel/watchdog: Introduce a struct for NMI watchdog operations Ricardo Neri
2018-06-13  7:41   ` Nicholas Piggin
2018-06-13  8:42     ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-13  9:26       ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-06-13 11:52         ` Nicholas Piggin
2018-06-14  1:31           ` Ricardo Neri
2018-06-14  2:32             ` Nicholas Piggin [this message]
2018-06-14  8:32               ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-06-15  2:21               ` Ricardo Neri
2018-06-14  1:26       ` Ricardo Neri
2018-06-13  0:57 ` [RFC PATCH 13/23] watchdog/hardlockup: Define a generic function to detect hardlockups Ricardo Neri
2018-06-13  0:57 ` [RFC PATCH 14/23] watchdog/hardlockup: Decouple the hardlockup detector from perf Ricardo Neri
2018-06-13  8:43   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-14  1:19     ` Ricardo Neri
2018-06-14  1:41       ` Nicholas Piggin
2018-06-15  2:23         ` Ricardo Neri
2018-06-13  0:57 ` [RFC PATCH 15/23] kernel/watchdog: Add a function to obtain the watchdog_allowed_mask Ricardo Neri
2018-06-13  0:57 ` [RFC PATCH 16/23] watchdog/hardlockup: Add an HPET-based hardlockup detector Ricardo Neri
2018-06-13  5:23   ` Randy Dunlap
2018-06-14  1:00     ` Ricardo Neri
2018-06-13  0:57 ` [RFC PATCH 17/23] watchdog/hardlockup/hpet: Convert the timer's interrupt to NMI Ricardo Neri
2018-06-13  9:07   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-15  2:07     ` Ricardo Neri
2018-06-13  9:40   ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-06-15  2:03     ` Ricardo Neri
2018-06-15  9:19       ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-06-16  0:51         ` Ricardo Neri
2018-06-16 13:24           ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-06-20  0:15             ` Ricardo Neri
2018-06-20  0:25               ` Randy Dunlap
2018-06-21  0:25                 ` Ricardo Neri
2018-06-20  7:47               ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-06-13  0:57 ` [RFC PATCH 18/23] watchdog/hardlockup/hpet: Add the NMI watchdog operations Ricardo Neri
2018-06-13  0:57 ` [RFC PATCH 19/23] watchdog/hardlockup: Make arch_touch_nmi_watchdog() to hpet-based implementation Ricardo Neri
2018-06-13  0:57 ` [RFC PATCH 20/23] watchdog/hardlockup/hpet: Rotate interrupt among all monitored CPUs Ricardo Neri
2018-06-13  9:48   ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-06-15  2:16     ` Ricardo Neri
2018-06-15 10:29       ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-06-16  0:46         ` Ricardo Neri
2018-06-16 13:27           ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-06-13  0:57 ` [RFC PATCH 21/23] watchdog/hardlockup/hpet: Adjust timer expiration on the number of " Ricardo Neri
2018-06-13  0:57 ` [RFC PATCH 22/23] watchdog/hardlockup/hpet: Only enable the HPET watchdog via a boot parameter Ricardo Neri
2018-06-13  5:26   ` Randy Dunlap
2018-06-14  0:58     ` Ricardo Neri
2018-06-14  3:30       ` Randy Dunlap
2018-06-13  0:57 ` [RFC PATCH 23/23] watchdog/hardlockup: Activate the HPET-based lockup detector Ricardo Neri

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