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From: Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>
To: Jirka Hladky <jhladky@redhat.com>
Cc: Jakub Racek <jracek@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>,
	linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org,
	"kkolakow@redhat.com" <kkolakow@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [4.17 regression] Performance drop on kernel-4.17 visible on Stream, Linpack and NAS parallel benchmarks
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2018 14:52:12 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180615135212.wq45co7ootvdeo2f@techsingularity.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAE4VaGBtasbDBoZ-c5R-AY++Y1BXgjrE7DwN0zOt113xmV95xw@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 02:23:17PM +0200, Jirka Hladky wrote:
> I added configurations that used half of the CPUs. However, that would
> > mean it fits too nicely within sockets. I've added another set for one
> > third of the CPUs and scheduled the tests. Unfortunately, they will not
> > complete quickly as my test grid has a massive backlog of work.
> 
> 
> We always use the number of threads being an integer multiple of the number
> of sockets.  With another number of threads, we have seen the bigger
> variation in results (that's variation between subsequent runs of the same
> test).
> 

It's not immediately obvious what's special about those numbers. I did
briefly recheck the variability of NAS on one of the machines but the
coefficient of variance was usually quite low with occasional outliers
of +/- 5% or +/- 7%. Anyway, it's a side-issue.

>  Nice one, thanks. It's fairly clear that rate limiting may be a major
> > component and it's worth testing with the ratelimit increased. Given that
> > there have been a lot of improvements on locality and corner cases since
> > the rate limit was first introduced, it may also be worth considering
> > elimintating the rate limiting entirely and see what falls out.
> 
> 
> How can we tune mm_numa_migrate_ratelimit? It doesn't seem to be a runtime
> tunable nor kernel boot parameter. Could you please share some hints on how
> to change it and what value to use? I would be interested to try it out.
> 

It's not runtime tunable I'm afraid. It's a code change and recompile.
For example the following allows more pages to be migrated within a
100ms window.

diff --git a/mm/migrate.c b/mm/migrate.c
index 8c0af0f7cab1..edb550493f06 100644
--- a/mm/migrate.c
+++ b/mm/migrate.c
@@ -1862,7 +1862,7 @@ static struct page *alloc_misplaced_dst_page(struct page *page,
  * window of time. Default here says do not migrate more than 1280M per second.
  */
 static unsigned int migrate_interval_millisecs __read_mostly = 100;
-static unsigned int ratelimit_pages __read_mostly = 128 << (20 - PAGE_SHIFT);
+static unsigned int ratelimit_pages __read_mostly = 512 << (20 - PAGE_SHIFT);
 
 /* Returns true if the node is migrate rate-limited after the update */
 static bool numamigrate_update_ratelimit(pg_data_t *pgdat,

-- 
Mel Gorman
SUSE Labs

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-06-15 13:52 UTC|newest]

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2018-06-11 14:11 ` [4.17 regression] Performance drop on kernel-4.17 visible on Stream, Linpack and NAS parallel benchmarks Mel Gorman
     [not found]   ` <CAE4VaGCMS2pXfPVSnMbudexv_m5wRCTuBKA5ijh2x==11uQg9g@mail.gmail.com>
2018-06-14  8:36     ` Mel Gorman
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2018-06-15 11:25         ` Mel Gorman
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2018-06-15 13:52             ` Mel Gorman [this message]
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2018-06-19 15:18                   ` Mel Gorman
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2018-06-21  9:23                         ` Mel Gorman
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2018-06-27  8:49                               ` Mel Gorman
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2018-07-17 10:03                                         ` Mel Gorman
     [not found]                                           ` <CAE4VaGA_L1AEj+Un0oQEEqZp_jgaFLk+Z=vNoad08oXnU2T1nw@mail.gmail.com>
2018-09-03 15:07                                             ` Jirka Hladky
2018-09-04  9:00                                               ` Mel Gorman
2018-09-04 10:07                                                 ` Jirka Hladky
2018-09-06  8:16                                                   ` Jirka Hladky
2018-09-06 12:58                                                     ` Mel Gorman
2018-09-07  8:09                                                       ` Jirka Hladky
2018-09-14 16:50                                                         ` Jirka Hladky
2018-06-06 12:27 Jakub Racek
2018-06-06 12:34 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-06-06 12:44   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-06-07 11:07 ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-07 11:19   ` Jakub Raček
2018-06-07 12:39 ` Mel Gorman
     [not found]   ` <CAE4VaGBAZ0HCy-M2rC3ce9ePOBhE6H-LDVBuJDJMNFf40j70Aw@mail.gmail.com>
2018-06-08  7:40     ` Mel Gorman
     [not found]       ` <CAE4VaGAgC7vDwaa-9AzJYst9hdQ5KbnrBUnk_mfp=NeTEe5dAQ@mail.gmail.com>
2018-06-08  9:24         ` Mel Gorman
     [not found]           ` <CAE4VaGATk3_Hr_2Wh44BZvXDc06A=rxUZXRFj+D=Xwh2x1YOyg@mail.gmail.com>
2018-06-08 11:15             ` Mel Gorman

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