On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 02:15:38PM +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: > On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 12:35 PM, Mark Brown wrote: > > The flip side of that is that either suspend and resume or poweroff are > > broken for userspace unless they know about this magic sysfs file which > > isn't great either. > But to me that isn't that much different from an RTC wake alarm, say. > Enabling it to wake up the system in general isn't sufficient, you > also need to actually set the alarm using a different interface. It seems more like hardware breakage we're trying to fix than a feature - it's not like it's adding something we didn't have already (like setting a time in an alarm where the alarm is an additional thing), more just trying to execute on an existing user interface successfully. I can see that there's a case that it doesn't map very well onto the standard interfaces so perhaps we have to add something on the side as the hardware is just too horrible to fit in with the standard interfaces and we have to do that.