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From: Quentin Perret <quentin.perret@arm.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	mingo@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	rjw@rjwysocki.net, juri.lelli@redhat.com,
	dietmar.eggemann@arm.com, Morten.Rasmussen@arm.com,
	viresh.kumar@linaro.org, valentin.schneider@arm.com,
	patrick.bellasi@arm.com, joel@joelfernandes.org,
	daniel.lezcano@linaro.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 04/11] cpufreq/schedutil: use rt utilization tracking
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2018 16:30:17 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180622153016.GA29031@e108498-lin.cambridge.arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180622152258.GF2512@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Friday 22 Jun 2018 at 17:22:58 (+0200), Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 22, 2018 at 01:37:13PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > That is true.. So we could limit the scaling to the case where there is
> > no idle time, something like:
> > 
> > 	util = sg_cpu->util_cfs;
> > 
> > 	cap_cfs = (1024 - (sg_cpu->util_rt + ...));
> > 	if (util == cap_cfs)
> > 		util = sg_cpu->max;
> > 
> 
> OK, it appears this is more or less what the patches do. And I think
> there's a small risk/hole with this where util ~= cap_cfs but very close
> due to some unaccounted time.

So Vincent suggested at some point to add a margin to avoid that issue
IIRC. FWIW, this is what the overutilized flag of EAS does. It basically
says, if there isn't enough idle time in the system (cfs_util is too close
to cap_cfs), don't bother looking at the util signals because they'll be
kinda wrong.

So what about something like, go to max freq if overutilized ? Or
something similar on a per cpufreq policy basis ?

Thanks,
Quentin

  reply	other threads:[~2018-06-22 15:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-06-08 12:09 [PATCH v6 00/11] track CPU utilization Vincent Guittot
2018-06-08 12:09 ` [PATCH v6 01/11] sched/pelt: Move pelt related code in a dedicated file Vincent Guittot
2018-06-08 12:09 ` [PATCH v6 02/11] sched/pelt: remove blank line Vincent Guittot
2018-06-21 14:33   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-21 18:42     ` Vincent Guittot
2018-06-08 12:09 ` [PATCH v6 03/11] sched/rt: add rt_rq utilization tracking Vincent Guittot
2018-06-15 11:52   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2018-06-15 12:18     ` Vincent Guittot
2018-06-15 14:55       ` Dietmar Eggemann
2018-06-21 18:50   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-08 12:09 ` [PATCH v6 04/11] cpufreq/schedutil: use rt " Vincent Guittot
2018-06-18  9:00   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2018-06-18 12:58     ` Vincent Guittot
2018-06-21 18:45   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-21 18:57     ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-22  8:10       ` Vincent Guittot
2018-06-22 11:41         ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-22 12:14           ` Vincent Guittot
2018-06-22  7:58     ` Juri Lelli
2018-06-22  7:58     ` Quentin Perret
2018-06-22 11:37       ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-22 11:44         ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-22 12:23         ` Vincent Guittot
2018-06-22 13:26           ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-22 13:52             ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-22 13:54             ` Vincent Guittot
2018-06-22 13:57               ` Vincent Guittot
2018-06-22 14:46                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-22 14:49                   ` Vincent Guittot
2018-06-22 14:11               ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-22 14:48                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-22 14:12               ` Vincent Guittot
2018-06-22 12:54         ` Quentin Perret
2018-06-22 13:29           ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-22 15:22         ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-22 15:30           ` Quentin Perret [this message]
2018-06-22 17:24           ` Vincent Guittot
2018-06-08 12:09 ` [PATCH v6 05/11] sched/dl: add dl_rq " Vincent Guittot
2018-06-08 12:09 ` [PATCH v6 06/11] cpufreq/schedutil: use dl " Vincent Guittot
2018-06-08 12:39   ` Juri Lelli
2018-06-08 12:48     ` Vincent Guittot
2018-06-08 12:54       ` Juri Lelli
2018-06-08 13:36         ` Juri Lelli
2018-06-08 13:38           ` Vincent Guittot
2018-06-22 15:24   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-22 17:22     ` Vincent Guittot
2018-06-08 12:09 ` [PATCH v6 07/11] sched/irq: add irq " Vincent Guittot
2018-06-08 12:09 ` [PATCH v6 08/11] cpufreq/schedutil: take into account interrupt Vincent Guittot
2018-06-12  8:54   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2018-06-12  9:10     ` Vincent Guittot
2018-06-12  9:16       ` Vincent Guittot
2018-06-12  9:20         ` Quentin Perret
2018-06-12  9:26           ` Vincent Guittot
2018-06-08 12:09 ` [PATCH v6 09/11] sched: use pelt for scale_rt_capacity() Vincent Guittot
2018-06-08 12:09 ` [PATCH v6 10/11] sched: remove rt_avg code Vincent Guittot
2018-06-08 12:09 ` [PATCH v6 11/11] proc/sched: remove unused sched_time_avg_ms Vincent Guittot

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