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From: Boris Brezillon <boris.brezillon@bootlin.com>
To: Janusz Krzysztofik <jmkrzyszt@gmail.com>
Cc: Miquel Raynal <miquel.raynal@bootlin.com>,
	Tony Lindgren <tony@atomide.com>,
	Aaro Koskinen <aaro.koskinen@iki.fi>,
	Grygorii Strashko <grygorii.strashko@ti.com>,
	Santosh Shilimkar <ssantosh@kernel.org>,
	Kevin Hilman <khilman@kernel.org>,
	Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>,
	Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>,
	David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	Brian Norris <computersforpeace@gmail.com>,
	Marek Vasut <marek.vasut@gmail.com>,
	linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-omap@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-gpio@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Artem Bityutskiy <artem.bityutskiy@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 8/8] mtd: rawnand: ams-delta: Use GPIO callbacks for data I/O
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2018 21:48:08 +0200
Message-ID: <20180720214808.0c19234e@bbrezillon> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2165137.iTHcPHRtIn@z50>

Janusz,

On Fri, 20 Jul 2018 20:38:15 +0200
Janusz Krzysztofik <jmkrzyszt@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thursday, July 19, 2018 8:47:49 AM CEST Boris Brezillon wrote:
> > On Thu, 19 Jul 2018 01:57:10 +0200
> > Janusz Krzysztofik <jmkrzyszt@gmail.com> wrote:
> >   
> > > Don't readw()/writew() data directly from/to GPIO port which is under
> > > control of gpio-omap driver, use GPIO chip callbacks instead.
> > > 
> > > Thanks to utilization of get/set_multiple() callbacks, performance
> > > degrade is minor for typical data transfers.  
> > 
> > Same comment here, don't use the gpio_chip hooks directly, use the
> > consumer API instead.  
> 
> I tired but performance was not acceptable.

You tried to use gpiod_{get,set}_array_value(), right? Did you
investigate on where the overhead comes from?

> 
> I see your point but please understand, what I'm trying to do here is not to 
> develop a shiny general purpose fully GPIO based NAND driver, I'm trying to 
> resolve issues with NAND driver for Amstrad Delta I like to play with, without 
> loosing much performance.

That's not a reason to violate the consumer/driver separation provided
by the GPIO framework. I'm not saying the current consumer APIs are
good enough for what you want to do (bit-bang a parallel data bus in
an efficient way), but bypassing the GPIO core like you do is
definitely not a good thing. Maybe you should discuss with Linus the
possibility of introducing a gpio_bitbang API that would provide you
some guarantees on the access time by making sure the pins all belong
to the same bank (and can thus be accessed in an atomic way). And maybe
provide a way to read/write several bytes by defining a delay between
each access, the size of the bus and the control pin if any (in
our case NRE/NWE). 

> 
> I'm going to reconsider all possible options, not only doing data I/O over 
> GPIO inside the driver, to have the task completed.  Once done,  I can get 
> back to the GPIO based code I developed so far and create a new generic driver 
> as my free time permits, or anyone can do that if needed, the code is open 
> source after all.

Let's forget the generic nand-gpio driver for now. All I'm asking is
that you do not bypass the GPIO framework like you intend do in this
patch.

Regards,

Boris

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Thread overview: 206+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-07-18 23:57 [RFC PATCH 0/8] mtd: rawnand: ams-delta: Use gpio-omap accessors " Janusz Krzysztofik
2018-07-18 23:57 ` [RFC PATCH 1/8] mtd: rawnand: ams-delta: Use private structure Janusz Krzysztofik
2018-07-19  6:17   ` Boris Brezillon
2018-07-20 17:57     ` Janusz Krzysztofik
2018-07-18 23:57 ` [RFC PATCH 2/8] mtd: rawnand: ams-delta: Write protect device during probe Janusz Krzysztofik
2018-07-19  6:22   ` Boris Brezillon
2018-07-20 18:02     ` Janusz Krzysztofik
2018-07-18 23:57 ` [RFC PATCH 3/8] mtd: rawnand: ams-delta: Set port direction once per transfer Janusz Krzysztofik
2018-07-19  6:23   ` Boris Brezillon
2018-07-20 18:12     ` Janusz Krzysztofik
2018-07-20 19:29       ` Boris Brezillon
2018-07-18 23:57 ` [RFC PATCH 4/8] mtd: rawnand: ams-delta: Optimize pointer resolution on read/write Janusz Krzysztofik
2018-07-19  6:25   ` Boris Brezillon
2018-07-20 18:14     ` Janusz Krzysztofik
2018-07-20 19:29       ` Boris Brezillon
2018-07-18 23:57 ` [RFC PATCH 5/8] mtd: rawnand: ams-delta: Request data port GPIO resource Janusz Krzysztofik
2018-07-19  6:28   ` Boris Brezillon
2018-07-18 23:57 ` [RFC PATCH 6/8] gpio: omap: Add get/set_multiple() callbacks Janusz Krzysztofik
2018-07-29 20:29   ` Linus Walleij
2018-08-03  1:52     ` Grygorii Strashko
2018-08-03 16:47   ` Linus Walleij
2018-07-18 23:57 ` [RFC PATCH 7/8] mtd: rawnand: ams-delta: Check sanity of data GPIO resource Janusz Krzysztofik
2018-07-19  6:44   ` Boris Brezillon
2018-07-29 20:36     ` Linus Walleij
2018-07-29 21:16       ` Boris Brezillon
2018-07-29 20:33   ` Linus Walleij
2018-07-18 23:57 ` [RFC PATCH 8/8] mtd: rawnand: ams-delta: Use GPIO callbacks for data I/O Janusz Krzysztofik
2018-07-19  6:47   ` Boris Brezillon
2018-07-20 18:38     ` Janusz Krzysztofik
2018-07-20 19:48       ` Boris Brezillon [this message]
2018-07-19  6:15 ` [RFC PATCH 0/8] mtd: rawnand: ams-delta: Use gpio-omap accessors " Boris Brezillon
2018-07-20 17:55   ` Janusz Krzysztofik
2018-07-20 19:25     ` Boris Brezillon
2018-10-03 12:00   ` [RFC PATCH] mtd: rawnand: ams-delta: use ->exec_op() Janusz Krzysztofik
2018-10-03 12:30     ` Boris Brezillon
2018-10-03 13:55       ` Janusz Krzysztofik
2018-10-03 14:06         ` Boris Brezillon
2018-10-04 13:52           ` Janusz Krzysztofik
2018-10-04 13:59             ` Boris Brezillon
2018-10-04 14:11               ` Janusz Krzysztofik
2018-10-04 14:22                 ` Boris Brezillon
2018-10-12 20:41     ` [PATCH v2 1/2] mtd: rawnand: Provide helper for polling GPIO R/B pin Janusz Krzysztofik
2018-10-12 20:41       ` [PATCH v2 2/2] mtd: rawnand: ams-delta: Use ->exec_op() Janusz Krzysztofik
2018-10-13  6:05         ` Boris Brezillon
2018-10-13  5:55       ` [PATCH v2 1/2] mtd: rawnand: Provide helper for polling GPIO R/B pin Boris Brezillon
2018-10-15 19:41       ` [PATCH v3 1/3] " Janusz Krzysztofik
2018-10-15 19:41         ` [PATCH v3 2/3] mtd: rawnand: ams-delta: Stop using legacy .IOADDR_R/W Janusz Krzysztofik
2018-10-15 19:41         ` [PATCH v3 3/3] mtd: rawnand: ams-delta: Convert the driver to ->exec_op() Janusz Krzysztofik
2018-11-11 20:53         ` [PATCH v3 1/3] mtd: rawnand: Provide helper for polling GPIO R/B pin Miquel Raynal
2018-08-06 22:29 ` [RFC PATCH v2] mtd: rawnand: ams-delta: Use GPIO API for data I/O Janusz Krzysztofik
2018-08-06 22:29   ` [RFC PATCH v2 01/12] mtd: rawnand: ams-delta: Assign mtd->dev.parent, not mtd->owner Janusz Krzysztofik
2018-08-06 23:54     ` Marek Vasut
2018-08-07 21:55       ` Janusz Krzysztofik
2018-08-07 16:57     ` Boris Brezillon
2018-08-06 22:29   ` [RFC PATCH v2 02/12] mtd: rawnand: ams-delta: Use private structure Janusz Krzysztofik
2018-08-07 16:59     ` Boris Brezillon
2018-08-06 22:29   ` [RFC PATCH v2 03/12] ARM: OMAP1: ams-delta: Provide GPIO lookup table for NAND data port Janusz Krzysztofik
2018-08-07 16:59     ` Boris Brezillon
2018-08-10 10:10     ` Linus Walleij
2018-08-06 22:29   ` [RFC PATCH v2 04/12] mtd: rawnand: ams-delta: request data port GPIO resource Janusz Krzysztofik
2018-08-07 17:00     ` Boris Brezillon
2018-08-10 10:11     ` Linus Walleij
2018-08-06 22:29   ` [RFC PATCH v2 05/12] mtd: rawnand: ams-delta: use GPIO API for data read/write Janusz Krzysztofik
2018-08-06 23:57     ` Marek Vasut
2018-08-07 17:06     ` Boris Brezillon
2018-08-07 17:11       ` Janusz Krzysztofik
2018-08-10 10:25     ` Linus Walleij
2018-08-06 22:29   ` [RFC PATCH v2 06/12] ARM: OMAP1: ams-delta: drop obsolete NAND resources Janusz Krzysztofik
2018-08-06 22:29   ` [RFC PATCH v2 07/12] mtd: rawnand: ams-delta: Set port direction once per transfer Janusz Krzysztofik
2018-08-07 18:57     ` Boris Brezillon
2018-08-08 16:55       ` Janusz Krzysztofik
2018-08-08 17:42         ` Miquel Raynal
2018-08-06 22:29   ` [RFC PATCH v2 08/12] mtd: rawnand: ams-delta: Simplify pointer resolution on read/write Janusz Krzysztofik
2018-08-07 17:02     ` Boris Brezillon
2018-08-07 17:15       ` Janusz Krzysztofik
2018-08-06 22:29   ` [RFC PATCH v2 09/12] gpiolib: Identify GPIO descriptor arrays with direct mapping Janusz Krzysztofik
2018-08-06 23:29     ` Linus Walleij
2018-08-07 16:50       ` Janusz Krzysztofik
2018-08-07 17:10         ` Boris Brezillon
2018-08-07 17:14     ` Boris Brezillon
2018-08-07 17:19       ` Janusz Krzysztofik
2018-08-06 22:29   ` [RFC PATCH v2 10/12] gpiolib: Introduce bitmap get/set array API extension Janusz Krzysztofik
2018-08-06 22:29   ` [RFC PATCH v2 11/12] mtd: rawnand: ams-delta: Use GPIO API bitmap extension Janusz Krzysztofik
2018-08-06 22:29   ` [RFC PATCH v2 12/12] gpiolib: Add fast processing path to bitmap API functions Janusz Krzysztofik
2018-08-06 23:43     ` Linus Walleij
2018-08-07 17:29       ` Janusz Krzysztofik
2018-08-07 17:47         ` Boris Brezillon
2018-08-10 10:55           ` Linus Walleij
2018-08-13 22:34   ` [PATCH v3 0/7] mtd: rawnand: ams-delta: Use GPIO API for data I/O Janusz Krzysztofik
2018-08-13 22:34     ` [PATCH v3 1/7] mtd: rawnand: ams-delta: show parent device in sysfs Janusz Krzysztofik
2018-08-13 22:34     ` [PATCH v3 2/7] mtd: rawnand: ams-delta: Use private structure Janusz Krzysztofik
2018-08-13 22:34     ` [PATCH v3 3/7] ARM: OMAP1: ams-delta: Provide GPIO lookup table for NAND data port Janusz Krzysztofik
2018-08-13 22:34     ` [PATCH v3 4/7] mtd: rawnand: ams-delta: request data port GPIO resource Janusz Krzysztofik
2018-08-13 22:34     ` [PATCH v3 5/7] mtd: rawnand: ams-delta: Set port direction when needed Janusz Krzysztofik
2018-08-16  7:30       ` Boris Brezillon
2018-08-13 22:34     ` [PATCH v3 6/7] mtd: rawnand: ams-delta: Simplify pointer resolution on read/write Janusz Krzysztofik
2018-08-13 22:34     ` [PATCH v3 7/7] mtd: rawnand: ams-delta: use GPIO API for data I/O Janusz Krzysztofik
2018-08-16  7:39       ` Boris Brezillon
2018-08-20 21:39     ` [PATCH v4 0/3] mtd: rawnand: ams-delta: Cleanups and optimizations Janusz Krzysztofik
2018-08-20 21:39       ` [PATCH v4 1/3] mtd: rawnand: ams-delta: show parent device in sysfs Janusz Krzysztofik
2018-08-20 21:39       ` [PATCH v4 2/3] mtd: rawnand: ams-delta: Use private structure Janusz Krzysztofik
2018-08-20 21:39       ` [PATCH v4 3/3] mtd: rawnand: ams-delta: Set port direction when needed Janusz Krzysztofik
2018-08-24 12:57         ` Boris Brezillon
2018-09-05  6:47       ` [PATCH v4 0/3] mtd: rawnand: ams-delta: Cleanups and optimizations Miquel Raynal
2018-09-05 20:53         ` Janusz Krzysztofik
2018-09-07 16:45           ` Tony Lindgren
2018-09-19  8:46             ` Miquel Raynal
2018-09-19 22:52       ` [PATCH v5 " Janusz Krzysztofik
2018-09-19 22:52         ` [PATCH v5 1/3] mtd: rawnand: ams-delta: show parent device in sysfs Janusz Krzysztofik
2018-09-19 22:52         ` [PATCH v5 2/3] mtd: rawnand: ams-delta: Use private structure Janusz Krzysztofik
2018-09-19 22:52         ` [PATCH v5 3/3] mtd: rawnand: ams-delta: Set port direction when needed Janusz Krzysztofik
2018-09-23 11:35         ` [PATCH v5 0/3] mtd: rawnand: ams-delta: Cleanups and optimizations Miquel Raynal
2018-08-20 23:43     ` [RFC RFT PATCH 0/4] gpiolib: speed up GPIO array processing Janusz Krzysztofik
2018-08-20 23:43       ` [RFC RFT PATCH v4 1/4] gpiolib: Pass bitmaps, not integer arrays, to get/set array Janusz Krzysztofik
2018-08-21  6:49         ` Peter Rosin
2018-08-21  6:52           ` Peter Rosin
2018-08-29 12:03         ` Miguel Ojeda
2018-08-29 18:01           ` Janusz Krzysztofik
2018-08-20 23:43       ` [RFC RFT PATCH v4 2/4] gpiolib: Identify arrays matching GPIO hardware Janusz Krzysztofik
2018-08-20 23:43       ` [RFC RFT PATCH v4 3/4] gpiolib: Pass array info to get/set array functions Janusz Krzysztofik
2018-08-20 23:43       ` [RFC RFT PATCH v4 4/4] gpiolib: Implement fast processing path in get/set array Janusz Krzysztofik
2018-08-29  9:06       ` [RFC RFT PATCH 0/4] gpiolib: speed up GPIO array processing Linus Walleij
2018-08-29 18:16         ` Janusz Krzysztofik
2018-08-29 10:19       ` Ulf Hansson
2018-08-29 20:48       ` [PATH v5 " Janusz Krzysztofik
2018-08-29 20:48         ` [PATCH v5 1/4] gpiolib: Pass bitmaps, not integer arrays, to get/set array Janusz Krzysztofik
2018-08-30  4:30           ` Peter Rosin
2018-08-30  7:40           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-08-30 11:10           ` Miguel Ojeda
2018-08-30 15:35             ` David Laight
2018-09-02 10:19             ` Janusz Krzysztofik
2018-08-31  9:14           ` Linus Walleij
2018-08-29 20:48         ` [PATCH v5 2/4] gpiolib: Identify arrays matching GPIO hardware Janusz Krzysztofik
2018-08-29 20:48         ` [PATCH v5 3/4] gpiolib: Pass array info to get/set array functions Janusz Krzysztofik
2018-08-29 20:49         ` [PATCH v5 4/4] gpiolib: Implement fast processing path in get/set array Janusz Krzysztofik
2018-08-31 22:56         ` [PATH v6 0/4] gpiolib: speed up GPIO array processing Janusz Krzysztofik
2018-08-31 22:56           ` [PATCH v6 1/4] gpiolib: Pass bitmaps, not integer arrays, to get/set array Janusz Krzysztofik
2018-09-01  0:23             ` Peter Rosin
2018-09-04 15:28             ` kbuild test robot
2018-09-04 15:28             ` kbuild test robot
2018-08-31 22:56           ` [PATCH v6 2/4] gpiolib: Identify arrays matching GPIO hardware Janusz Krzysztofik
2018-08-31 22:56           ` [PATCH v6 3/4] gpiolib: Pass array info to get/set array functions Janusz Krzysztofik
2018-09-04 15:27             ` kbuild test robot
2018-08-31 22:56           ` [PATCH v6 4/4] gpiolib: Implement fast processing path in get/set array Janusz Krzysztofik
2018-09-02 12:01           ` [PATCH v7 0/4] gpiolib: speed up GPIO array processing Janusz Krzysztofik
2018-09-02 12:01             ` [PATCH v7 1/4] gpiolib: Pass bitmaps, not integer arrays, to get/set array Janusz Krzysztofik
2018-09-02 13:21               ` Lukas Wunner
2018-09-03  4:31               ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-09-03 14:24                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-09-03 15:07               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-09-04 15:29               ` kbuild test robot
2018-09-05  6:46               ` kbuild test robot
2018-09-02 12:01             ` [PATCH v7 2/4] gpiolib: Identify arrays matching GPIO hardware Janusz Krzysztofik
2018-09-02 12:01             ` [PATCH v7 3/4] gpiolib: Pass array info to get/set array functions Janusz Krzysztofik
2018-09-03 14:21               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-09-04 15:23               ` kbuild test robot
2018-09-05  7:11               ` kbuild test robot
2018-09-02 12:01             ` [PATCH v7 4/4] gpiolib: Implement fast processing path in get/set array Janusz Krzysztofik
     [not found]               ` <CGME20180920101151eucas1p221f5a1715b8556bb9d99bf08fe09ce6f@eucas1p2.samsung.com>
2018-09-20 10:11                 ` Marek Szyprowski
2018-09-20 15:48                   ` Janusz Krzysztofik
2018-09-20 16:21                     ` Janusz Krzysztofik
2018-09-21  8:18                       ` Marek Szyprowski
2018-09-21 10:51                         ` Janusz Krzysztofik
2018-09-21 11:26                           ` Janusz Krzysztofik
2018-09-21 14:14                           ` Marek Szyprowski
2018-09-23 10:43                             ` Janusz Krzysztofik
2018-09-23 23:53                               ` [PATCH 0/2] gpiolib: Fix issues introduced by fast bitmap processing path Janusz Krzysztofik
2018-09-23 23:53                                 ` [PATCH 1/2] gpiolib: Fix missing updates of bitmap index Janusz Krzysztofik
2018-09-24  8:11                                   ` Linus Walleij
2018-09-29 12:20                                   ` [PATCH] gpiolib: Fix incorrect use of find_next_zero_bit() Janusz Krzysztofik
2018-10-01  6:46                                     ` Marek Szyprowski
2018-10-01  9:37                                     ` Linus Walleij
2018-09-23 23:53                                 ` [PATCH 2/2] gpiolib: Fix array members of same chip processed separately Janusz Krzysztofik
2018-09-24  8:13                                   ` Linus Walleij
2018-09-24  9:43                                 ` [PATCH 0/2] gpiolib: Fix issues introduced by fast bitmap processing path Marek Szyprowski
2018-09-24 11:08                                   ` Janusz Krzysztofik
2018-09-24 11:38                                     ` Marek Szyprowski
2018-09-24 14:18                                       ` Janusz Krzysztofik
2018-09-25 19:24                                         ` [PATCH] mmc: pwrseq_simple: Fix incorrect handling of GPIO bitmap Janusz Krzysztofik
2018-09-26  7:50                                           ` Linus Walleij
2018-09-26  8:14                                           ` Marek Szyprowski
     [not found]                                           ` <7a4906d9-ffb1-f2af-07e7-d5815dcd0d8c@samsung.com>
2018-09-26  8:27                                             ` Marek Szyprowski
2018-10-12 19:09                                           ` [RFT PATCH] " Janusz Krzysztofik
2018-10-15  8:32                                             ` Marek Szyprowski
2018-10-15 10:29                                             ` Ulf Hansson
2018-10-15 14:27                                             ` Linus Walleij
2018-09-20 18:05                     ` [PATCH v7 4/4] gpiolib: Implement fast processing path in get/set array Dan Carpenter
2018-09-20 15:49                   ` Linus Walleij
2018-09-05 21:50             ` [PATCH v8 0/4] gpiolib: speed up GPIO array processing Janusz Krzysztofik
2018-09-05 21:50               ` [PATCH v8 1/4] gpiolib: Pass bitmaps, not integer arrays, to get/set array Janusz Krzysztofik
2018-09-05 21:50               ` [PATCH v8 2/4] gpiolib: Identify arrays matching GPIO hardware Janusz Krzysztofik
2018-09-05 21:50               ` [PATCH v8 3/4] gpiolib: Pass array info to get/set array functions Janusz Krzysztofik
2018-09-05 21:50               ` [PATCH v8 4/4] gpiolib: Implement fast processing path in get/set array Janusz Krzysztofik
2018-09-13  9:22               ` [PATCH v8 0/4] gpiolib: speed up GPIO array processing Linus Walleij
2018-09-19 18:08                 ` Linus Walleij
2018-11-21 11:08     ` Subject: [PATCH v4 0/4] mtd: rawnand: ams-delta: Use GPIO API for data I/O Janusz Krzysztofik
2018-11-21 11:08       ` [PATCH v4 1/4] ARM: OMAP1: ams-delta: Provide GPIO lookup table for NAND data port Janusz Krzysztofik
2018-11-23 17:02         ` Tony Lindgren
2018-11-21 11:08       ` [PATCH v4 2/4] mtd: rawnand: ams-delta: Request data port GPIO resource Janusz Krzysztofik
2018-11-21 11:08       ` [PATCH v4 3/4] mtd: rawnand: ams-delta: Use GPIO API for data I/O Janusz Krzysztofik
2018-11-21 14:53         ` Boris Brezillon
2018-11-21 11:08       ` [PATCH v4 4/4] ARM: OMAP1: ams-delta: Drop obsolete NAND resources Janusz Krzysztofik
2018-11-21 14:56       ` Subject: [PATCH v4 0/4] mtd: rawnand: ams-delta: Use GPIO API for data I/O Boris Brezillon
2018-11-23 17:03         ` Tony Lindgren
2018-12-07  8:04           ` Miquel Raynal
2018-12-07 16:10             ` Tony Lindgren

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Archives are clonable:
	git clone --mirror https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/0 lkml/git/0.git
	git clone --mirror https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/1 lkml/git/1.git
	git clone --mirror https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/2 lkml/git/2.git
	git clone --mirror https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/3 lkml/git/3.git
	git clone --mirror https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/4 lkml/git/4.git
	git clone --mirror https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/5 lkml/git/5.git
	git clone --mirror https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/6 lkml/git/6.git
	git clone --mirror https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/7 lkml/git/7.git

	# If you have public-inbox 1.1+ installed, you may
	# initialize and index your mirror using the following commands:
	public-inbox-init -V2 lkml lkml/ https://lore.kernel.org/lkml \
		linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
	public-inbox-index lkml

Example config snippet for mirrors

Newsgroup available over NNTP:
	nntp://nntp.lore.kernel.org/org.kernel.vger.linux-kernel


AGPL code for this site: git clone https://public-inbox.org/public-inbox.git