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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
Cc: Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@hmh.eng.br>,
	Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com>,
	mingo@elte.hu, rdunlap@infradead.org, tglx@linutronix.de,
	hpa@zytor.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86-64: use 32-bit XOR to zero registers
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2018 13:45:37 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180726114537.GA12408@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180726091916.GA23471@amd>


* Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz> wrote:

> On Tue 2018-06-26 08:38:22, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> > On Tue, 26 Jun 2018, Jan Beulich wrote:
> > > >>> On 25.06.18 at 18:33, <rdunlap@infradead.org> wrote:
> > > > On 06/25/2018 03:25 AM, Jan Beulich wrote:
> > > >> Some Intel CPUs don't recognize 64-bit XORs as zeroing idioms - use
> > > >> 32-bit ones instead.
> > > > 
> > > > Hmph.  Is that considered a bug (errata)?
> > > 
> > > No.
> > > 
> > > > URL/references?
> > > 
> > > Intel's Optimization Reference Manual says so (in rev 040 this is in section
> > > 16.2.2.5 "Zeroing Idioms" as a subsection of the Goldmont/Silvermont
> > > descriptions).
> > > 
> > > > Are these changes really only zeroing the lower 32 bits of the register?
> > > > and that's all that the code cares about?
> > > 
> > > No - like all operations targeting a 32-bit register, the result is zero
> > > extended to the entire 64-bit destination register.
> > 
> > Missing information that would have been helpful in the commit message:
> > 
> > When the processor can recognize something as a zeroing idiom, it
> > optimizes that operation on the front-end.  Only 32-bit XOR r,r is
> > documented as a zeroing idiom according to the Intel optimization
> > manual.  While a few Intel processors recognize the 64-bit version of
> > XOR r,r as a zeroing idiom, many won't.
> > 
> > Note that the 32-bit operation extends to the high part of the 64-bit
> > register, so it will zero the entire 64-bit register.  The 32-bit
> > instruction is also one byte shorter.
> 
> Actually, I believe that should be comment in code.

Agreed - mind sending a patch that adds it?

> But Ingo (?) told me everyone knows about this quirk...

I was wrong.

Thanks,

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2018-07-26 11:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-06-25 10:25 [PATCH] x86-64: use 32-bit XOR to zero registers Jan Beulich
2018-06-25 16:33 ` Randy Dunlap
2018-06-25 16:49   ` hpa
2018-06-26  6:32   ` Jan Beulich
2018-06-26 11:38     ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2018-07-26  9:19       ` Pavel Machek
2018-07-26 11:45         ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2018-07-26 18:17           ` Pavel Machek
2018-07-26 19:06             ` Ingo Molnar
2018-06-26  7:17 ` Ingo Molnar

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