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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: Joel Fernandes <joelaf@google.com>,
	Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Cc: Android Kernel" <kernel-team@android.com>,
	Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	Byungchul Park <byungchul.park@lge.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>,
	Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
	Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Thomas Glexiner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Tom Zanussi <tom.zanussi@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v12 3/3] tracing: Centralize preemptirq tracepoints and unify their usage
Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2018 07:33:10 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180808143310.GL24813@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180808090724.41677176@gandalf.local.home>

On Wed, Aug 08, 2018 at 09:07:24AM -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> On Wed, 8 Aug 2018 06:03:02 -0700
> "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
> 
> >  What's wrong with a this_cpu_inc()? It's atomic for the CPU. Although
> > > it wont be atomic for the capture of the idx. But I also don't see
> > > interrupts being disabled, thus an NMI is no different than any
> > > interrupt doing the same thing, right?  
> > 
> > On architectures without increment-memory instructions, if you take an NMI
> > between the load from sp->sda->srcu_lock_count and the later store, you
> > lose a count.  Note that both __srcu_read_lock() and __srcu_read_unlock()
> > do increments of different locations, so you cannot rely on the usual
> > "NMI fixes up before exit" semantics you get when incrementing and
> > decrementing the same location.
> 
> And how is this handled in the interrupt case? Interrupts are not
> disabled here.

Actually, on most architectures interrupts are in fact disabled:

#define this_cpu_generic_to_op(pcp, val, op)				\
do {									\
	unsigned long __flags;						\
	raw_local_irq_save(__flags);					\
	raw_cpu_generic_to_op(pcp, val, op);				\
	raw_local_irq_restore(__flags);					\
} while (0)

NMIs, not so much.

> I would also argue that architectures without increment-memory
> instructions shouldn't have NMIs ;-)

I would also argue a lot of things, but objective reality does not take my
opinions into account all that often.  Which might be a good thing.  ;-)

							Thanx, Paul


  reply	other threads:[~2018-08-08 14:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-07-30 22:24 [PATCH v12 0/3] tracing: Centralize preemptirq tracepoints and unify their usage Joel Fernandes
2018-07-30 22:24 ` [PATCH v12 1/3] lockdep: use this_cpu_ptr instead of get_cpu_var stats Joel Fernandes
2018-07-30 22:24 ` [PATCH v12 2/3] tracepoint: Make rcuidle tracepoint callers use SRCU Joel Fernandes
2018-07-30 23:10   ` Steven Rostedt
2018-08-10 15:35   ` Steven Rostedt
2018-08-10 16:32     ` Steven Rostedt
2018-07-30 22:24 ` [PATCH v12 3/3] tracing: Centralize preemptirq tracepoints and unify their usage Joel Fernandes
2018-08-06 19:50   ` Steven Rostedt
2018-08-07  0:43     ` Joel Fernandes
2018-08-07  1:43       ` Steven Rostedt
2018-08-07 13:33         ` Joel Fernandes
2018-08-07 13:49           ` Steven Rostedt
2018-08-07 14:10             ` Joel Fernandes
2018-08-07 14:34               ` Steven Rostedt
2018-08-07 14:48                 ` Joel Fernandes
2018-08-07 15:09                   ` Steven Rostedt
2018-08-07 15:24                     ` Joel Fernandes
2018-08-07 23:45                       ` Steven Rostedt
2018-08-07 23:54                         ` Joel Fernandes
2018-08-08  0:48                           ` Steven Rostedt
2018-08-08  1:17                             ` Joel Fernandes
2018-08-08  1:55                               ` Steven Rostedt
2018-08-08  2:13                                 ` Joel Fernandes
2018-08-08  2:28                                   ` Steven Rostedt
2018-08-08  3:44                                     ` Joel Fernandes
2018-08-08  3:53                                       ` Joel Fernandes
2018-08-08  5:06                                         ` Joel Fernandes
2018-08-08 12:46                                         ` Steven Rostedt
2018-08-08 13:03                                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-08-08 13:07                                             ` Steven Rostedt
2018-08-08 14:33                                               ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2018-08-08 14:49                                                 ` Steven Rostedt
2018-08-08 15:05                                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-08-08 15:23                                                     ` Steven Rostedt
2018-08-08 16:02                                                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-08-08 16:24                                                         ` Steven Rostedt
2018-08-08 17:21                                                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-08-08 13:00                                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-08-08 14:10                                           ` Joel Fernandes
2018-08-08 14:49                                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-08-08 19:24                                               ` Joel Fernandes
2018-08-08 20:18                                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-08-08 22:15                                                   ` Joel Fernandes
2018-08-08 22:47                                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-08-09 12:18                                                       ` joel
2018-08-08 14:27                                           ` Steven Rostedt
2018-08-08 14:42                                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-08-08 15:27                                               ` Steven Rostedt
2018-08-08 16:03                                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-08-02 14:55 ` [PATCH v12 0/3] " Masami Hiramatsu
2018-08-03  2:57   ` Joel Fernandes
2018-08-03  7:23     ` Masami Hiramatsu
2018-08-04  4:51       ` Joel Fernandes
2018-08-05 16:46         ` Joel Fernandes
2018-08-06  2:07           ` Masami Hiramatsu
2018-08-06 15:24             ` Joel Fernandes
2018-08-03  7:34     ` Masami Hiramatsu

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