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From: joeyli <>
To: Bjorn Helgaas <>
Cc: "Lee, Chun-Yi" <>,
	Bjorn Helgaas <>,
	Thomas Gleixner <>,
	Ingo Molnar <>, "H . Peter Anvin" <>,,,
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86/PCI: Claim the resources of firmware enabled IOAPIC before children bus
Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2018 08:15:45 +0800
Message-ID: <20180812001413.GC3570@linux-l9pv.suse> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <>

On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 08:58:37AM -0500, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 05:25:01PM +0800, joeyli wrote:
> > On Wed, Aug 08, 2018 at 04:23:22PM -0500, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> > ...
> > hm... I have another question that it may not relates to this issue. I
> > was tracing the code path of PCI hot-remove/hotplug. Base on spec, looks
> > that the RST# should be asserted when hot-remove. And the memory decode
> > bit must be set to zero after RST# be asserted. But I didn't see that
> > any kernel PCI/ACPI code set RST#. The only possible code to set RST# is
> > in POWER architecture. Do you know who assert the RST# when hot-remove?    
> RST# is a conventional PCI signal (not a PCIe signal).  In any case, I
> would expect signals like that to be handled by hardware, not by
> software.  What section of the spec are you looking at?  I wouldn't

In PCI Hot-Plug Spec v1.1

2.2.1 Hot Removal
The Hot-Plug System Driver uses the Hot-Plug Controller to do the following:
a) Assert RST# to the slot and isolate the slot from the rest of the bus, in
   either order.
b) Power down the slot.
c) Change the optional slot-state indicator, as defined in Section 3.1.1, to show
   that the slot is off.

In the above description, it said that "Hot-Plug System Driver" should done
the job. So I was think that kernel driver must asserts RST#, but I didn't
find that in kernel code.

Then, in PCI Local Bus spec v2.2, it mentions:

Table 6-1: Command Register Bits
Bit Location            Description
0                       ...State after RST# is 0.
1                       ...State after RST# is 0.

So, after hot-remove the RST# must be asserted and the IO/memory
decode bit should also be set to zero.

I was tracing the kerenl hot-remove code for RST# because I
want to make sure that kernel didn't change the RST# state from

> expect any requirements for doing things to a device when the device
> is being hot-removed, since the device may already be inaccessible,
> e.g., physically unreachable.

I see! It makes sense.

But I still confused about the "Hot-Plug System Driver" wording in
PCI Hot-Plug Spec. The "Hot-Plug System Driver " means a kernel

> On a hot-*add*, there would of course be requirements about how the
> device powers up and comes out of reset.  For native drivers like
> pciehp/shpcpd/etc, there are often ways for software to control power
> to the slot, e.g., the "Power Controller Control" bit in the PCIe Slot
> Control register.
> For ACPI-mediated hotplug (as in your situation), the actual hardware
> details are handled by the firmware and all the OS sees are things
> like ACPI Notify events and it uses methods like _STA and other things
> mentioned in ACPI v6.2, sec 6.3.
> > > What are the chances of getting a firmware fix?  Has this firmware
> > > already shipped to customers?
> > 
> > The good news is that the machine has not shipped yet. As I know
> > that manufacturer is also finding the root cause for why firmware
> > enabled memory decode bit and also set the wrong addresses.
> I don't think it's necessarily a problem that firmware enables the
> IOAPIC.  This is ACPI-mediated hotplug and it looks like it adds CPUs,
> memory, and I/O.  I wouldn't be surprised if the firmware has to make
> the IOAPIC operational to make some parts of the hot-add work.
> The address conflict is the real problem.

Thanks for your explanation. It's really useful to me.

Thanks a lot!
Joey Lee

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Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-07-24 11:01 Lee, Chun-Yi
2018-08-06 21:48 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2018-08-08 15:53   ` joeyli
2018-08-08 21:23     ` Bjorn Helgaas
2018-08-10  9:25       ` joeyli
2018-08-10 13:58         ` Bjorn Helgaas
2018-08-12  0:15           ` joeyli [this message]
2018-08-13 18:45             ` Bjorn Helgaas

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