From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=3.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_PASS,URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F34FAC433F5 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2018 14:14:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1F2520844 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2018 14:14:58 +0000 (UTC) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mail.kernel.org A1F2520844 Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=bootlin.com Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1729795AbeIFSul (ORCPT ); Thu, 6 Sep 2018 14:50:41 -0400 Received: from mail.bootlin.com ([62.4.15.54]:58954 "EHLO mail.bootlin.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1729073AbeIFSul (ORCPT ); Thu, 6 Sep 2018 14:50:41 -0400 Received: by mail.bootlin.com (Postfix, from userid 110) id D865120726; Thu, 6 Sep 2018 16:14:54 +0200 (CEST) Received: from bbrezillon (AAubervilliers-681-1-30-219.w90-88.abo.wanadoo.fr [90.88.15.219]) by mail.bootlin.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 28D6C2072B; Thu, 6 Sep 2018 16:14:44 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2018 16:14:43 +0200 From: Boris Brezillon To: vitor Cc: Arnd Bergmann , Przemyslaw Gaj , "open list:GPIO SUBSYSTEM" , Sekhar Nori , Wolfram Sang , Linux I2C , Jonathan Corbet , "open list:DOCUMENTATION" , gregkh , Przemyslaw Sroka , Arkadiusz Golec , Alan Douglas , Bartosz Folta , Damian Kos , "Alicja Jurasik-Urbaniak" , Cyprian Wronka , Suresh Punnoose , Rafal Ciepiela , Thomas Petazzoni , Nishanth Menon , Rob Herring , Pawel Moll , "Mark Rutland" , Ian Campbell , Kumar Gala , DTML , Linux Kernel Mailing List , Geert Uytterhoeven , Linus Walleij , Xiang Lin , Peter Rosin Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 01/10] i3c: Add core I3C infrastructure Message-ID: <20180906161443.0f76b246@bbrezillon> In-Reply-To: References: <20180719152930.3715-1-boris.brezillon@bootlin.com> <20180719152930.3715-2-boris.brezillon@bootlin.com> <20180824143934.6d6b6487@bbrezillon> <20180824201600.7d80bca9@bbrezillon> <20180828140209.29155d00@bbrezillon> <4DBE768F-3CDC-41BE-9CC8-E294E7277CB1@cadence.com> <8abfb007-d755-36a4-5960-fddd61d04aa2@synopsys.com> <3D2681D9-1ACC-42FF-9FAB-D86B3C689003@cadence.com> <9584757a-e7e2-5bfe-fc2c-e9bc14ad65a8@synopsys.com> <25862F03-9823-42B0-87AC-AE36D7E9C780@cadence.com> <20180906151437.4259d6fc@bbrezillon> <20180906152055.5618d235@bbrezillon> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.15.0-dirty (GTK+ 2.24.31; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Thu, 6 Sep 2018 14:50:03 +0100 vitor wrote: > Hi, > > > On 06-09-2018 14:20, Boris Brezillon wrote: > > On Thu, 6 Sep 2018 15:14:37 +0200 > > Boris Brezillon wrote: > > > >> On Thu, 6 Sep 2018 14:59:46 +0200 > >> Arnd Bergmann wrote: > >> > >>> On Thu, Sep 6, 2018 at 2:43 PM Przemyslaw Gaj wrote: > >>>> Hi Boris, Vitor, > >>>> > >>>> This repository does not contain full kernel sources, but it should be enough to discuss mastership request feature. > >>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_przemekgaj_i3c-2Dlinux_commit_d54fe68a9d3e573c0c454a2c6f1afafc20142ec5&d=DwICAg&c=DPL6_X_6JkXFx7AXWqB0tg&r=qVuU64u9x77Y0Kd0PhDK_lpxFgg6PK9PateHwjb_DY0&m=Q9DWw3KGmshGw0f5QTiffbpbESyUlPx6KmASuDBtX9Y&s=HHE_y1kyMszJvP_tSP9JkDlPYxDywBeHwkMGgCR11uI&e= > >>>> > >>>> Please keep in mind that this is initial version, but mastership works correctly. I added one property to DT to reflect relationship between masters. > >>>> It is possible to request mastership on demand (using sysfs. Useful in case when Linux machine is equipped only with secondary master controller) or automatically change operation mode when device driver wants to read/write something from/to device. > >>>> > >>>> I'm sure I will have to rework something because this was implemented on sources from PATCH v4. I saw that Boris released v7 yesterday :) > >>> > >>> Can you explain the reason for having a user space interface and DT property? > >>> I thought we had concluded earlier that we wouldn't need that, but it's possible > >>> that I missed something in the discussion since then. > >> I don't think the sysfs knob is needed, this being said, after thinking > >> a bit more about mastership handover and the secondary master case, I > >> think we have something important to solve. > >> > >> When a master is not in control of the bus, it gets informed of devices > >> present on the bus by monitoring DAA or DEFSLVS broadcast events. That > >> means the secondary master should populate the bus with I3C/I2C devices > >> on such events, but that's not enough, because DEFSLVS/DAA do not > >> provide all device info.Some of them (like read/write/ibi limitations) > >> require extra CCC commands, and, to send those CCC commands, the > >> secondary master must claim the bus. We could add a case where we > >> declare devices as partially discovered until the master acquires > >> ownership of the bus, but that means part of the data returned by > >> i3c_device_get_info() will be inaccurate, which might have an impact on > >> some i3c driver ->probe() functions. > > Hm, one possible solution would be to register partially discovered > > devices to the device model and let i3c_device_get_info() claim the bus > > and request missing data when needed. This way, if the driver needs to > > call i3c_device_get_info() in its probe path, it should work just fine. > > Why don't use the i3c_master_add_i3c_dev_locked that job? It create, > attach and retrieve the device info. When will you call i3c_master_add_i3c_dev_locked()? After receiving a DEFSLVS interrupt/event? When that happens you're not in control of the bus, which means you'll have to force bus ownership handover. Is this really what we want? These are not rhetorical questions, I'm really asking for your opinion here. > This can be triggered after the secondary master receive ENEC MR until > them is keep in the driver memory. But that means no-one will actually trigger a mastership request, because devices won't be registered until all info are available. If we take this path, we should have a way to explicitly trigger a mastership request (sysfs knob or any other means).