From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Nadav Amit <nadav.amit@gmail.com>
Cc: Nadav Amit <namit@vmware.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>,
Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>,
Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>, Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
Sean Christopherson <sean.j.christopherson@intel.com>,
Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86: use WRITE_ONCE() when setting PTEs
Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2018 22:27:46 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180906202746.GD9358@worktop.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <10030BE1-FE29-4C60-9963-4BE932EF09BA@gmail.com>
On Thu, Sep 06, 2018 at 01:12:14PM -0700, Nadav Amit wrote:
> at 12:57 PM, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
>
> > On Sun, Sep 02, 2018 at 11:14:50AM -0700, Nadav Amit wrote:
> >> When page-table entries are set, the compiler might optimize their
> >> assignment by using multiple instructions to set the PTE. This might
> >> turn into a security hazard if the user somehow manages to use the
> >> interim PTE. L1TF does not make our lives easier, making even an interim
> >> non-present PTE a security hazard.
> >>
> >> Using WRITE_ONCE() to set PTEs and friends should prevent this potential
> >> security hazard.
> >>
> >> I skimmed the differences in the binary with and without this patch. The
> >> differences are (obviously) greater when CONFIG_PARAVIRT=n as more
> >> code optimizations are possible. For better and worse, the impact on the
> >> binary with this patch is pretty small. Skimming the code did not cause
> >> anything to jump out as a security hazard, but it seems that at least
> >> move_soft_dirty_pte() caused set_pte_at() to use multiple writes.
> >
> > Acked-by: Peter Zijlstra (Intel) <peterz@infradead.org>
> >
> > Also, its corollary would also make sense/be required, use READ_ONCE()
> > when reading these.
>
> I don’t know. This would obviously be much more intrusive. I can add a
> get_pte() and write a Coccinelle script to use it instead of reading the
> PTE, but in most cases, I presume, it would be an overkill.
>
> The reason for that is that the PTEs are supposed to be accessed while
> holding the page-table lock, and the hardware can only change dirty & access
> bits. I think that any code that assumes that these bits do not change while
> holding the lock is already broken in more ways.
There are lockless readers, but I just checked, mm/gup.c already uses
READ_ONCE(), so that should be fine.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-09-06 20:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-09-02 18:14 [PATCH] x86: use WRITE_ONCE() when setting PTEs Nadav Amit
2018-09-06 17:21 ` Dave Hansen
2018-09-06 19:28 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-09-07 14:10 ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-09-06 19:57 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-09-06 20:12 ` Nadav Amit
2018-09-06 20:27 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2018-09-08 10:34 ` [tip:x86/urgent] x86/mm: Use " tip-bot for Nadav Amit
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