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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>
Cc: will.deacon@arm.com, aneesh.kumar@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, npiggin@gmail.com,
	linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux@armlinux.org.uk,
	heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 01/11] asm-generic/tlb: Provide a comment
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 12:57:38 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180913105738.GW24124@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180913123014.0d9321b8@mschwideX1>

On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 12:30:14PM +0200, Martin Schwidefsky wrote:

> > + * The mmu_gather data structure is used by the mm code to implement the
> > + * correct and efficient ordering of freeing pages and TLB invalidations.
> > + *
> > + * This correct ordering is:
> > + *
> > + *  1) unhook page
> > + *  2) TLB invalidate page
> > + *  3) free page
> > + *
> > + * That is, we must never free a page before we have ensured there are no live
> > + * translations left to it. Otherwise it might be possible to observe (or
> > + * worse, change) the page content after it has been reused.
> > + *
> 
> This first comment already includes the reason why s390 is probably better off
> with its own mmu-gather implementation. It depends on the situation if we have
> 
> 1) unhook the page and do a TLB flush at the same time
> 2) free page
> 
> or
> 
> 1) unhook page
> 2) free page
> 3) final TLB flush of the whole mm

that's the fullmm case, right?

> A variant of the second order we had in the past is to do the mm TLB flush first,
> then the unhooks and frees of the individual pages. The are some tricky corners
> switching between the two variants, see finish_arch_post_lock_switch.
> 
> The point is: we *never* have the order 1) unhook, 2) TLB invalidate, 3) free.
> If there is concurrency due to a multi-threaded application we have to do the
> unhook of the page-table entry and the TLB flush with a single instruction.

You can still get the thing you want if for !fullmm you have a no-op
tlb_flush() implementation, assuming your arch page-table frobbing thing
has the required TLB flush in.

Note that that's not utterly unlike how the PowerPC/Sparc hash things
work, they clear and invalidate entries different from others and don't
use the mmu_gather tlb-flush.



  reply	other threads:[~2018-09-13 10:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-09-13  9:21 [RFC][PATCH 00/11] my generic mmu_gather patches Peter Zijlstra
2018-09-13  9:21 ` [RFC][PATCH 01/11] asm-generic/tlb: Provide a comment Peter Zijlstra
2018-09-13 10:30   ` Martin Schwidefsky
2018-09-13 10:57     ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2018-09-13 12:18       ` Martin Schwidefsky
2018-09-13 12:39         ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-09-14 10:28           ` Martin Schwidefsky
2018-09-14 13:02             ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-09-14 14:07               ` Martin Schwidefsky
2018-09-14 16:48   ` Will Deacon
2018-09-19 11:33     ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-09-19 11:51     ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-09-19 12:23       ` Will Deacon
2018-09-19 13:12         ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-09-13  9:21 ` [RFC][PATCH 02/11] asm-generic/tlb: Provide HAVE_MMU_GATHER_PAGE_SIZE Peter Zijlstra
2018-09-14 16:56   ` Will Deacon
2018-09-13  9:21 ` [RFC][PATCH 03/11] x86/mm: Page size aware flush_tlb_mm_range() Peter Zijlstra
2018-09-13 17:22   ` Dave Hansen
2018-09-13 18:42     ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-09-13 18:46       ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-09-13 18:48         ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-09-13 18:49         ` Dave Hansen
2018-09-13 18:47       ` Dave Hansen
2018-09-13  9:21 ` [RFC][PATCH 04/11] asm-generic/tlb: Provide generic VIPT cache flush Peter Zijlstra
2018-09-14 16:56   ` Will Deacon
2018-09-13  9:21 ` [RFC][PATCH 05/11] asm-generic/tlb: Provide generic tlb_flush Peter Zijlstra
2018-09-13 13:09   ` Jann Horn
2018-09-13 14:06     ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-09-13  9:21 ` [RFC][PATCH 06/11] asm-generic/tlb: Conditionally provide tlb_migrate_finish() Peter Zijlstra
2018-09-14 16:57   ` Will Deacon
2018-09-13  9:21 ` [RFC][PATCH 07/11] arm/tlb: Convert to generic mmu_gather Peter Zijlstra
2018-09-18 14:10   ` Will Deacon
2018-09-19 11:28     ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-09-19 12:24       ` Will Deacon
2018-09-19 11:30     ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-09-13  9:21 ` [RFC][PATCH 08/11] ia64/tlb: Conver " Peter Zijlstra
2018-09-13  9:21 ` [RFC][PATCH 09/11] sh/tlb: Convert SH " Peter Zijlstra
2018-09-13  9:21 ` [RFC][PATCH 10/11] um/tlb: Convert " Peter Zijlstra
2018-09-13  9:21 ` [RFC][PATCH 11/11] arch/tlb: Clean up simple architectures Peter Zijlstra

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