From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=3.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_PASS,USER_AGENT_MUTT autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51C46C43143 for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2018 13:50:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A282204FD for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2018 13:50:45 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (2048-bit key) header.d=infradead.org header.i=@infradead.org header.b="UyTMwi5x" DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mail.kernel.org 1A282204FD Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=infradead.org Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1732271AbeJBUeL (ORCPT ); Tue, 2 Oct 2018 16:34:11 -0400 Received: from merlin.infradead.org ([205.233.59.134]:56248 "EHLO merlin.infradead.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1730939AbeJBUeK (ORCPT ); Tue, 2 Oct 2018 16:34:10 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infradead.org; s=merlin.20170209; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version: References:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date:Sender:Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date: Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id: List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=3TjGtxWWv7Cu2Tim8v0Fbd1T2mIx4r5RGnZkBXBnxIo=; b=UyTMwi5xYB14Vw25j4SKdmgwn v7jdEkkvRBbmSLMs3irjA4rrEb1kxxy7DUaRZFXsQjUTTMWcClp6wcihZu+ZkqPe4iJYuoAoQktqJ KAXrjyMra7zyJjbXOhQcvZj2ZH12KE+J6dp+wgd6hAvLGbmXAj/N0uRi55Q+tQrzBVczlaU7FFqi3 VnHdfbDLHgXo4eLmwqYHn9nYRwsjEWL0e8nGNUnDEzSIz6iz0inV7TM629bQ6YlXDYbS64HK/0wfG T3bjHMTrqjZfZp/fnH8X/bRfh8sD2A6KokhmcxFtRfqlq5LuZEx3KcK89gMCzsPcUq1IsgCvzor5p oTFfdn/wA==; Received: from j217100.upc-j.chello.nl ([24.132.217.100] helo=hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net) by merlin.infradead.org with esmtpsa (Exim 4.90_1 #2 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1g7L4M-00063J-1w; Tue, 02 Oct 2018 13:50:34 +0000 Received: by hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B8910202549E7; Tue, 2 Oct 2018 15:50:32 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2018 15:50:32 +0200 From: Peter Zijlstra To: Quentin Perret Cc: rjw@rjwysocki.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org, gregkh@linuxfoundation.org, mingo@redhat.com, dietmar.eggemann@arm.com, morten.rasmussen@arm.com, chris.redpath@arm.com, patrick.bellasi@arm.com, valentin.schneider@arm.com, vincent.guittot@linaro.org, thara.gopinath@linaro.org, viresh.kumar@linaro.org, tkjos@google.com, joel@joelfernandes.org, smuckle@google.com, adharmap@codeaurora.org, skannan@codeaurora.org, pkondeti@codeaurora.org, juri.lelli@redhat.com, edubezval@gmail.com, srinivas.pandruvada@linux.intel.com, currojerez@riseup.net, javi.merino@kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 03/14] PM: Introduce an Energy Model management framework Message-ID: <20181002135032.GF26858@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> References: <20180912091309.7551-1-quentin.perret@arm.com> <20180912091309.7551-4-quentin.perret@arm.com> <20181002122535.GY3439@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> <20181002125414.aufsalllqf25rwsq@queper01-lin> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20181002125414.aufsalllqf25rwsq@queper01-lin> User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tue, Oct 02, 2018 at 01:54:17PM +0100, Quentin Perret wrote: > On Tuesday 02 Oct 2018 at 14:25:35 (+0200), Peter Zijlstra wrote: > > Should we explicitly mention that this ignores idle costs? > > More doc shouldn't hurt so I can add a little something if you feel it's > needed. Yes please, every time I read that thing I wonder about idle energy. Then I remember we talked about this and it is expressly ignored.