From: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
To: Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org>
Cc: gcc@gcc.gnu.org, Richard Biener <rguenther@suse.de>,
Michael Matz <matz@suse.de>, Nadav Amit <namit@vmware.com>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
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Subject: Re: PROPOSAL: Extend inline asm syntax with size spec
Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2018 16:13:49 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181007141349.GD30687@zn.tnic> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181007132228.GJ29268@gate.crashing.org>
On Sun, Oct 07, 2018 at 08:22:28AM -0500, Segher Boessenkool wrote:
> GCC already estimates the *size* of inline asm, and this is required
> *for correctness*.
I didn't say it didn't - but the heuristic could use improving.
> So I guess the real issue is that the inline asm size estimate for x86
> isn't very good (since it has to be pessimistic, and x86 insns can be
> huge)?
Well, the size thing could be just a "parameter" or "hint" of sorts, to
tell gcc to inline the function X which is inlining the asm statement
into the function Y which is calling function X. If you look at the
patchset, it is moving everything to asm macros where gcc is apparently
able to do better inlining.
> > 3) asm ("...") __attribute__((asm_size(<size-expr>)));
>
> Eww.
Why?
> More precise *size* estimates, yes. And if the user lies he should not
> be surprised to get assembler errors, etc.
Yes.
Another option would be if gcc parses the inline asm directly and
does a more precise size estimation. Which is a lot more involved and
complicated solution so I guess we wanna look at the simpler ones first.
:-)
> I don't like 2) either. But 1) looks interesting, depends what its
> semantics would be? "Don't count this insn's size for inlining decisions",
> maybe?
Or simply "this asm statement has a size of 1" to mean, inline it
everywhere. Which has the same caveats as above.
> Another option is to just force inlining for those few functions where
> GCC currently makes an inlining decision you don't like. Or are there
> more than a few?
I'm afraid they're more than a few and this should work automatically,
if possible.
Thx.
--
Regards/Gruss,
Boris.
Good mailing practices for 400: avoid top-posting and trim the reply.
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Thread overview: 116+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-10-03 21:30 [PATCH v9 00/10] x86: macrofying inline asm Nadav Amit
2018-10-03 21:30 ` [PATCH v9 01/10] xtensa: defining LINKER_SCRIPT for the linker script Nadav Amit
2018-10-04 10:00 ` [tip:x86/build] kbuild/arch/xtensa: Define " tip-bot for Nadav Amit
2018-10-03 21:30 ` [PATCH v9 02/10] Makefile: Prepare for using macros for inline asm Nadav Amit
2018-10-04 10:01 ` [tip:x86/build] kbuild/Makefile: Prepare for using macros in inline assembly code to work around asm() related GCC inlining bugs tip-bot for Nadav Amit
2018-11-06 18:57 ` [PATCH v9 02/10] Makefile: Prepare for using macros for inline asm Logan Gunthorpe
2018-11-06 19:18 ` Nadav Amit
2018-11-06 20:01 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-11-07 18:01 ` Nadav Amit
2018-11-07 18:53 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-11-07 18:56 ` Nadav Amit
2018-11-07 21:43 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-11-07 21:50 ` hpa
2018-11-08 6:18 ` Nadav Amit
2018-11-08 17:14 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-11-08 19:54 ` Nadav Amit
2018-11-08 20:00 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-11-08 20:18 ` Nadav Amit
2018-11-10 22:04 ` Nadav Amit
2018-11-13 4:56 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-10-03 21:30 ` [PATCH v9 03/10] x86: objtool: use asm macro for better compiler decisions Nadav Amit
2018-10-04 10:02 ` [tip:x86/build] x86/objtool: Use asm macros to work around GCC inlining bugs tip-bot for Nadav Amit
2018-10-03 21:30 ` [PATCH v9 04/10] x86: refcount: prevent gcc distortions Nadav Amit
2018-10-04 7:57 ` Ingo Molnar
2018-10-04 8:33 ` Ingo Molnar
2018-10-04 8:40 ` hpa
2018-10-04 8:56 ` Ingo Molnar
2018-10-04 8:56 ` Nadav Amit
2018-10-04 9:02 ` hpa
2018-10-04 9:16 ` Ingo Molnar
2018-10-04 19:33 ` H. Peter Anvin
2018-10-04 20:05 ` Nadav Amit
2018-10-04 20:08 ` H. Peter Anvin
2018-10-04 20:29 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-10-04 23:11 ` H. Peter Anvin
2018-10-06 1:40 ` Rasmus Villemoes
2018-10-04 9:12 ` Ingo Molnar
2018-10-04 9:17 ` hpa
2018-10-04 9:30 ` Nadav Amit
2018-10-04 9:45 ` Ingo Molnar
2018-10-04 10:23 ` Nadav Amit
2018-10-05 9:31 ` Ingo Molnar
2018-10-05 11:20 ` Borislav Petkov
2018-10-05 12:52 ` Ingo Molnar
2018-10-05 20:27 ` [PATCH 0/3] Macrofying inline asm rebased Nadav Amit
2018-10-05 20:27 ` [PATCH 1/3] x86/extable: Macrofy inline assembly code to work around GCC inlining bugs Nadav Amit
2018-10-06 14:42 ` [tip:x86/build] " tip-bot for Nadav Amit
2018-10-05 20:27 ` [PATCH 2/3] x86/cpufeature: " Nadav Amit
2018-10-06 14:43 ` [tip:x86/build] " tip-bot for Nadav Amit
2018-10-05 20:27 ` [PATCH 3/3] x86/jump-labels: " Nadav Amit
2018-10-06 14:44 ` [tip:x86/build] " tip-bot for Nadav Amit
2018-10-08 2:17 ` [PATCH v9 04/10] x86: refcount: prevent gcc distortions Nadav Amit
2018-10-04 8:40 ` Nadav Amit
2018-10-04 9:01 ` Ingo Molnar
2018-10-04 10:02 ` [tip:x86/build] x86/refcount: Work around GCC inlining bug tip-bot for Nadav Amit
2018-10-03 21:30 ` [PATCH v9 05/10] x86: alternatives: macrofy locks for better inlining Nadav Amit
2018-10-04 10:03 ` [tip:x86/build] x86/alternatives: Macrofy lock prefixes to work around GCC inlining bugs tip-bot for Nadav Amit
2018-10-03 21:30 ` [PATCH v9 06/10] x86: bug: prevent gcc distortions Nadav Amit
2018-10-04 10:03 ` [tip:x86/build] x86/bug: Macrofy the BUG table section handling, to work around GCC inlining bugs tip-bot for Nadav Amit
2018-10-03 21:30 ` [PATCH v9 07/10] x86: prevent inline distortion by paravirt ops Nadav Amit
2018-10-04 10:04 ` [tip:x86/build] x86/paravirt: Work around GCC inlining bugs when compiling " tip-bot for Nadav Amit
2018-10-03 21:30 ` [PATCH v9 08/10] x86: extable: use macros instead of inline assembly Nadav Amit
2018-10-03 21:30 ` [PATCH v9 09/10] x86: cpufeature: " Nadav Amit
2018-10-03 21:31 ` [PATCH v9 10/10] x86: jump-labels: " Nadav Amit
2018-10-07 9:18 ` PROPOSAL: Extend inline asm syntax with size spec Borislav Petkov
[not found] ` <20181007132228.GJ29268@gate.crashing.org>
2018-10-07 14:13 ` Borislav Petkov [this message]
2018-10-07 15:14 ` Segher Boessenkool
2018-10-08 5:58 ` Ingo Molnar
2018-10-08 7:53 ` Segher Boessenkool
2018-10-07 15:53 ` Michael Matz
2018-10-08 6:13 ` Ingo Molnar
2018-10-08 8:18 ` Segher Boessenkool
2018-10-08 7:31 ` Segher Boessenkool
2018-10-08 9:07 ` Richard Biener
2018-10-08 10:02 ` Segher Boessenkool
2018-10-09 14:53 ` Segher Boessenkool
2018-10-10 6:35 ` Ingo Molnar
2018-10-10 7:12 ` Richard Biener
2018-10-10 7:22 ` Ingo Molnar
2018-10-10 8:03 ` Segher Boessenkool
2018-10-10 8:19 ` Borislav Petkov
2018-10-10 8:35 ` Richard Biener
2018-10-10 18:54 ` Segher Boessenkool
2018-10-10 19:14 ` Borislav Petkov
2018-10-13 19:33 ` Borislav Petkov
2018-10-13 21:14 ` Alexander Monakov
2018-10-13 21:30 ` Borislav Petkov
2018-10-25 10:24 ` Borislav Petkov
2018-10-31 12:55 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-10-31 13:11 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-10-31 16:31 ` Segher Boessenkool
2018-11-01 5:20 ` Joe Perches
2018-11-01 9:01 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-11-01 9:20 ` Joe Perches
2018-11-01 11:15 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-12-27 4:47 ` Masahiro Yamada
2018-10-10 10:29 ` Richard Biener
2018-10-10 7:53 ` Segher Boessenkool
2018-10-10 16:31 ` Nadav Amit
2018-10-10 19:21 ` Segher Boessenkool
2018-10-11 7:04 ` Richard Biener
2018-11-29 11:46 ` Masahiro Yamada
2018-11-29 12:25 ` Segher Boessenkool
2018-11-30 9:06 ` Boris Petkov
2018-11-30 13:16 ` Segher Boessenkool
2018-12-10 8:16 ` Masahiro Yamada
2018-11-29 13:07 ` Borislav Petkov
2018-11-29 13:09 ` Richard Biener
2018-11-29 13:16 ` Borislav Petkov
2018-11-29 13:24 ` Richard Biener
2018-10-08 16:24 ` David Laight
2018-10-07 16:09 ` Nadav Amit
2018-10-07 16:46 ` Richard Biener
2018-10-07 19:06 ` Nadav Amit
2018-10-07 19:52 ` Jeff Law
2018-10-08 7:46 ` Richard Biener
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