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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
Cc: Mike Kravetz <mike.kravetz@oracle.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>, Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	Naoya Horiguchi <n-horiguchi@ah.jp.nec.com>,
	"Aneesh Kumar K . V" <aneesh.kumar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	"Kirill A . Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	Davidlohr Bueso <dave@stgolabs.net>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	stable@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] hugetlbfs: dirty pages as they are added to pagecache
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2018 18:47:26 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181018184726.fb8da5c733da5e0c6a235101@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181019004621.GA30067@redhat.com>

On Thu, 18 Oct 2018 20:46:21 -0400 Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 04:16:40PM -0700, Mike Kravetz wrote:
> > I was not sure about this, and expected someone could come up with
> > something better.  It just seems there are filesystems like huegtlbfs,
> > where it makes no sense wasting cycles traversing the filesystem.  So,
> > let's not even try.
> > 
> > Hoping someone can come up with a better method than hard coding as
> > I have done above.
> 
> It's not strictly required after marking the pages dirty though. The
> real fix is the other one? Could we just drop the hardcoding and let
> it run after the real fix is applied?
> 
> The performance of drop_caches doesn't seem critical, especially with
> gigapages. tmpfs doesn't seem to be optimized away from drop_caches
> and the gain would be bigger for tmpfs if THP is not enabled in the
> mount, so I'm not sure if we should worry about hugetlbfs first.

I guess so.  I can't immediately see a clean way of expressing this so
perhaps it would need a new BDI_CAP_NO_BACKING_STORE.  Such a
thing hardly seems worthwhile for drop_caches.

And drop_caches really shouldn't be there anyway.  It's a standing
workaround for ongoing suckage in pagecache and metadata reclaim
behaviour :(


  reply	other threads:[~2018-10-19  1:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-10-18  4:10 [PATCH] hugetlbfs: dirty pages as they are added to pagecache Mike Kravetz
2018-10-18 23:08 ` Andrew Morton
2018-10-18 23:16   ` Mike Kravetz
2018-10-19  0:46     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2018-10-19  1:47       ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2018-10-19  4:50         ` Mike Kravetz
2018-10-23  7:43 ` Michal Hocko
2018-10-23 17:30   ` Mike Kravetz
2018-10-23 17:41     ` Michal Hocko
2018-10-24  5:00     ` Khalid Aziz

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