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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@i-love.sakura.ne.jp>
Cc: serge@hallyn.com,
	syzbot <syzbot+a9ac39bf55329e206219@syzkaller.appspotmail.com>,
	jmorris@namei.org, keescook@chromium.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
	syzkaller-bugs@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: KASAN: use-after-free Read in task_is_descendant
Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2018 15:04:42 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181026130442.GB10581@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3423a470-c152-0dbf-c7a7-2775a9679194@i-love.sakura.ne.jp>

On 10/26, Tetsuo Handa wrote:
>
> Since the "child" passed to task_is_descendant() has at least one reference
> count taken by find_get_task_by_vpid(), rcu_dereference(walker->real_parent)
> in the first iteration
>
>   while (child->pid > 0) {
>     if (!thread_group_leader(child))
>       walker = rcu_dereference(child->group_leader);
>     if (walker == parent) {
>       rc = 1;
>       break;
>     }
>     walker = rcu_dereference(walker->real_parent);
>   }
>
> must not trigger use-after-free bug.

Yes,

> Thus, when this use-after-free was
> detected at rcu_dereference(walker->real_parent), the memory pointed by
> "walker" must have been released between
>
>   while (walker->pid > 0) {
>     if (!thread_group_leader(walker))
>       walker = rcu_dereference(walker->group_leader);
>
> and
>
>     walker = rcu_dereference(walker->real_parent);
>   }

this is possible too, rcu callback which frees the task_struct can run
int between

> because otherwise use-after-free would have been reported at walker->pid
> or thread_group_leader(walker) or rcu_dereference(walker->group_leader).

Well, I do not know how much kasan is "percise", but if it is "perfect"
then you are right,

> Then, what pid_alive(child) is testing?

I tried to explain this in my previous email. I even mentioned that we could
do another check, say, ->sighand != NULL, or list_empty(child->sibling) with
the same effect.

> Suppose p1 == p2->real_parent and p2 == p3->real_parent, and p1 exited
> when p2 tried to attach on p1, p2->real_parent was pointing to already
> (or about to be) freed p1.

No, p2->real_parent will be updated. If p1 exits it will re-parent its
children including p2.

Again, did you read my previous email?

Let me repeat, of course I can be wrong. But so far I am answering the
same questions again and again...

Oleg.


  reply	other threads:[~2018-10-26 13:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-10-21  7:10 KASAN: use-after-free Read in task_is_descendant syzbot
2018-10-21  7:12 ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-10-22  9:54   ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-10-22 10:06     ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-10-22 13:46       ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-10-25  2:15         ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-10-25 11:13           ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-10-25 11:36             ` Kees Cook
2018-10-25 12:05               ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-10-25 11:47             ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-10-25 12:17               ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-10-25 13:01                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-10-26 16:09                   ` Kees Cook
2018-10-29 12:23                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-10-29 15:05                       ` yama: unsafe usage of ptrace_relation->tracer Oleg Nesterov
2019-01-10 11:05                         ` Tetsuo Handa
2019-01-10 18:47                           ` Kees Cook
2019-01-16 17:40                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-10-25 13:14                 ` KASAN: use-after-free Read in task_is_descendant Tetsuo Handa
2018-10-25 15:55                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-10-25 16:25                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-10-26 12:23                     ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-10-26 13:04                       ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2018-10-26 13:51                         ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-10-26 14:39                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-10-26 15:04                             ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-10-26 15:22                               ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-10-25  8:19     ` Kees Cook
2018-10-25 11:52       ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-11-10  3:25 ` syzbot
2018-11-10 11:46 ` syzbot

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