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* UI messages in event thread hangs perf top
@ 2018-10-28  3:58 David Miller
  2018-10-29 12:25 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
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From: David Miller @ 2018-10-28  3:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: acme; +Cc: linux-kernel, kan.liang


If I run perf top with a "make -j128" kernel build, I get ring buffer event
processing timeouts which results in:

		ui__warning("Too slow to read ring buffer.\n"
			    "Please try increasing the period (-c) or\n"
			    "decreasing the freq (-F) or\n"
			    "limiting the number of CPUs (-C)\n");

from perf_top__mmap_read().

This hangs the main event thread.  Only the display thread runs after
this point.

We can't issue UI messages from the event thread, because those will
hang waiting for a keypress.  The display thread will eat any keys
we press and the event thread thus hangs forever.

I can tell this is what has happened because the histogram entries
continue to decay, yet the event count stops increasing.

If I put a gdb on the perf process, indeed the backtrace in the event
processing thread is in the select() call done by ui__getch().

Adding insult to injury, the display thread immediately overwrites the
warning message printed by the event thread, and thus the user has no
chance to even see it.

I really wonder how this was tested.

Perhaps we should mark the event thread in a special way and trigger
assertions if UI messages are printed from it.  Again, any such
operation will hang the thread and stop all event processing.

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* Re: UI messages in event thread hangs perf top
  2018-10-28  3:58 UI messages in event thread hangs perf top David Miller
@ 2018-10-29 12:25 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 2+ messages in thread
From: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo @ 2018-10-29 12:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: David Miller; +Cc: linux-kernel, kan.liang

Em Sat, Oct 27, 2018 at 08:58:30PM -0700, David Miller escreveu:
> 
> If I run perf top with a "make -j128" kernel build, I get ring buffer event
> processing timeouts which results in:
> 
> 		ui__warning("Too slow to read ring buffer.\n"
> 			    "Please try increasing the period (-c) or\n"
> 			    "decreasing the freq (-F) or\n"
> 			    "limiting the number of CPUs (-C)\n");
> 
> from perf_top__mmap_read().
> 
> This hangs the main event thread.  Only the display thread runs after
> this point.
> 
> We can't issue UI messages from the event thread, because those will
> hang waiting for a keypress.  The display thread will eat any keys
> we press and the event thread thus hangs forever.
> 
> I can tell this is what has happened because the histogram entries
> continue to decay, yet the event count stops increasing.
> 
> If I put a gdb on the perf process, indeed the backtrace in the event
> processing thread is in the select() call done by ui__getch().
> 
> Adding insult to injury, the display thread immediately overwrites the
> warning message printed by the event thread, and thus the user has no
> chance to even see it.
> 
> I really wonder how this was tested.
> 
> Perhaps we should mark the event thread in a special way and trigger
> assertions if UI messages are printed from it.  Again, any such
> operation will hang the thread and stop all event processing.

Right, I thought about marking a flag in the main event thread that then
gets picked up by the display thread, I'll try and write a patch for
that, if none has been submitted, I'm still downloading this weekend's
messages.

- Arnaldo

P.S. I was busy working as a volunteer in the brazilian elections :-\

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