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* [PATCH] Revert "HID: uhid: use strlcpy() instead of strncpy()"
@ 2018-11-14 13:16 David Herrmann
  2018-11-14 15:40 ` Laura Abbott
  2018-11-19 13:33 ` Jiri Kosina
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: David Herrmann @ 2018-11-14 13:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-input; +Cc: linux-kernel, jikos, benjamin.tissoires, David Herrmann

This reverts commit 336fd4f5f25157e9e8bd50e898a1bbcd99eaea46.

Please note that `strlcpy()` does *NOT* do what you think it does.
strlcpy() *ALWAYS* reads the full input string, regardless of the
'length' parameter. That is, if the input is not zero-terminated,
strlcpy() will *READ* beyond input boundaries. It does this, because it
always returns the size it *would* copy if the target was big enough,
not the truncated size it actually copied.

The original code was perfectly fine. The hid device is
zero-initialized and the strncpy() functions copied up to n-1
characters. The result is always zero-terminated this way.

This is the third time someone tried to replace strncpy with strlcpy in
this function, and gets it wrong. I now added a comment that should at
least make people reconsider.

Signed-off-by: David Herrmann <dh.herrmann@gmail.com>
---
 drivers/hid/uhid.c | 13 +++++++------
 1 file changed, 7 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-)

diff --git a/drivers/hid/uhid.c b/drivers/hid/uhid.c
index fefedc0b4dc6..0dfdd0ac7120 100644
--- a/drivers/hid/uhid.c
+++ b/drivers/hid/uhid.c
@@ -496,12 +496,13 @@ static int uhid_dev_create2(struct uhid_device *uhid,
 		goto err_free;
 	}
 
-	len = min(sizeof(hid->name), sizeof(ev->u.create2.name));
-	strlcpy(hid->name, ev->u.create2.name, len);
-	len = min(sizeof(hid->phys), sizeof(ev->u.create2.phys));
-	strlcpy(hid->phys, ev->u.create2.phys, len);
-	len = min(sizeof(hid->uniq), sizeof(ev->u.create2.uniq));
-	strlcpy(hid->uniq, ev->u.create2.uniq, len);
+	/* @hid is zero-initialized, strncpy() is correct, strlcpy() not */
+	len = min(sizeof(hid->name), sizeof(ev->u.create2.name)) - 1;
+	strncpy(hid->name, ev->u.create2.name, len);
+	len = min(sizeof(hid->phys), sizeof(ev->u.create2.phys)) - 1;
+	strncpy(hid->phys, ev->u.create2.phys, len);
+	len = min(sizeof(hid->uniq), sizeof(ev->u.create2.uniq)) - 1;
+	strncpy(hid->uniq, ev->u.create2.uniq, len);
 
 	hid->ll_driver = &uhid_hid_driver;
 	hid->bus = ev->u.create2.bus;
-- 
2.19.1


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* Re: [PATCH] Revert "HID: uhid: use strlcpy() instead of strncpy()"
  2018-11-14 13:16 [PATCH] Revert "HID: uhid: use strlcpy() instead of strncpy()" David Herrmann
@ 2018-11-14 15:40 ` Laura Abbott
  2018-11-14 23:09   ` Kees Cook
  2018-11-19 13:33 ` Jiri Kosina
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Laura Abbott @ 2018-11-14 15:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: David Herrmann, linux-input
  Cc: linux-kernel, jikos, benjamin.tissoires, Kees Cook

On 11/14/18 5:16 AM, David Herrmann wrote:
> This reverts commit 336fd4f5f25157e9e8bd50e898a1bbcd99eaea46.
> 
> Please note that `strlcpy()` does *NOT* do what you think it does.
> strlcpy() *ALWAYS* reads the full input string, regardless of the
> 'length' parameter. That is, if the input is not zero-terminated,
> strlcpy() will *READ* beyond input boundaries. It does this, because it
> always returns the size it *would* copy if the target was big enough,
> not the truncated size it actually copied.
> 
> The original code was perfectly fine. The hid device is
> zero-initialized and the strncpy() functions copied up to n-1
> characters. The result is always zero-terminated this way.
> 
> This is the third time someone tried to replace strncpy with strlcpy in
> this function, and gets it wrong. I now added a comment that should at
> least make people reconsider.
> 

Can we switch to strscpy instead? This will quiet gcc and avoid the
issues with strlcpy.

> Signed-off-by: David Herrmann <dh.herrmann@gmail.com>
> ---
>   drivers/hid/uhid.c | 13 +++++++------
>   1 file changed, 7 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/drivers/hid/uhid.c b/drivers/hid/uhid.c
> index fefedc0b4dc6..0dfdd0ac7120 100644
> --- a/drivers/hid/uhid.c
> +++ b/drivers/hid/uhid.c
> @@ -496,12 +496,13 @@ static int uhid_dev_create2(struct uhid_device *uhid,
>   		goto err_free;
>   	}
>   
> -	len = min(sizeof(hid->name), sizeof(ev->u.create2.name));
> -	strlcpy(hid->name, ev->u.create2.name, len);
> -	len = min(sizeof(hid->phys), sizeof(ev->u.create2.phys));
> -	strlcpy(hid->phys, ev->u.create2.phys, len);
> -	len = min(sizeof(hid->uniq), sizeof(ev->u.create2.uniq));
> -	strlcpy(hid->uniq, ev->u.create2.uniq, len);
> +	/* @hid is zero-initialized, strncpy() is correct, strlcpy() not */
> +	len = min(sizeof(hid->name), sizeof(ev->u.create2.name)) - 1;
> +	strncpy(hid->name, ev->u.create2.name, len);
> +	len = min(sizeof(hid->phys), sizeof(ev->u.create2.phys)) - 1;
> +	strncpy(hid->phys, ev->u.create2.phys, len);
> +	len = min(sizeof(hid->uniq), sizeof(ev->u.create2.uniq)) - 1;
> +	strncpy(hid->uniq, ev->u.create2.uniq, len);
>   
>   	hid->ll_driver = &uhid_hid_driver;
>   	hid->bus = ev->u.create2.bus;
> 


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* Re: [PATCH] Revert "HID: uhid: use strlcpy() instead of strncpy()"
  2018-11-14 15:40 ` Laura Abbott
@ 2018-11-14 23:09   ` Kees Cook
  2018-11-15 11:55     ` David Herrmann
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Kees Cook @ 2018-11-14 23:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: David Herrmann
  Cc: Laura Abbott, linux-input, LKML, Jiri Kosina, Benjamin Tissoires,
	Xiongfeng Wang

On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 9:40 AM, Laura Abbott <labbott@redhat.com> wrote:
> On 11/14/18 5:16 AM, David Herrmann wrote:
>>
>> This reverts commit 336fd4f5f25157e9e8bd50e898a1bbcd99eaea46.
>>
>> Please note that `strlcpy()` does *NOT* do what you think it does.
>> strlcpy() *ALWAYS* reads the full input string, regardless of the
>> 'length' parameter. That is, if the input is not zero-terminated,
>> strlcpy() will *READ* beyond input boundaries. It does this, because it
>> always returns the size it *would* copy if the target was big enough,
>> not the truncated size it actually copied.
>>
>> The original code was perfectly fine. The hid device is
>> zero-initialized and the strncpy() functions copied up to n-1
>> characters. The result is always zero-terminated this way.
>>
>> This is the third time someone tried to replace strncpy with strlcpy in
>> this function, and gets it wrong. I now added a comment that should at
>> least make people reconsider.
>>
>
> Can we switch to strscpy instead? This will quiet gcc and avoid the
> issues with strlcpy.

Yes please: it looks like these strings are expected to be NUL
terminated, so strscpy() without the "- 1" and min() logic would be
the correct solution here. If @hid is already zero, then this would
just be:

       strscpy(hid->name, ev->u.create2.name, sizeof(hid->name));
       strscpy(hid->phys, ev->u.create2.phys, sizeof(hid->phys));
       strscpy(hid->uniq, ev->u.create2.uniq, sizeof(hid->uniq));

If they are NOT NUL terminated, then keep using strncpy() but mark the
fields in the struct with the __nonstring attribute.

-Kees

>
>
>> Signed-off-by: David Herrmann <dh.herrmann@gmail.com>
>> ---
>>   drivers/hid/uhid.c | 13 +++++++------
>>   1 file changed, 7 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/drivers/hid/uhid.c b/drivers/hid/uhid.c
>> index fefedc0b4dc6..0dfdd0ac7120 100644
>> --- a/drivers/hid/uhid.c
>> +++ b/drivers/hid/uhid.c
>> @@ -496,12 +496,13 @@ static int uhid_dev_create2(struct uhid_device
>> *uhid,
>>                 goto err_free;
>>         }
>>   -     len = min(sizeof(hid->name), sizeof(ev->u.create2.name));
>> -       strlcpy(hid->name, ev->u.create2.name, len);
>> -       len = min(sizeof(hid->phys), sizeof(ev->u.create2.phys));
>> -       strlcpy(hid->phys, ev->u.create2.phys, len);
>> -       len = min(sizeof(hid->uniq), sizeof(ev->u.create2.uniq));
>> -       strlcpy(hid->uniq, ev->u.create2.uniq, len);
>> +       /* @hid is zero-initialized, strncpy() is correct, strlcpy() not
>> */
>> +       len = min(sizeof(hid->name), sizeof(ev->u.create2.name)) - 1;
>> +       strncpy(hid->name, ev->u.create2.name, len);
>> +       len = min(sizeof(hid->phys), sizeof(ev->u.create2.phys)) - 1;
>> +       strncpy(hid->phys, ev->u.create2.phys, len);
>> +       len = min(sizeof(hid->uniq), sizeof(ev->u.create2.uniq)) - 1;
>> +       strncpy(hid->uniq, ev->u.create2.uniq, len);
>>         hid->ll_driver = &uhid_hid_driver;
>>         hid->bus = ev->u.create2.bus;
>>
>



-- 
Kees Cook

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread

* Re: [PATCH] Revert "HID: uhid: use strlcpy() instead of strncpy()"
  2018-11-14 23:09   ` Kees Cook
@ 2018-11-15 11:55     ` David Herrmann
  2018-11-16  1:10       ` Kees Cook
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: David Herrmann @ 2018-11-15 11:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Kees Cook
  Cc: labbott, open list:HID CORE LAYER, linux-kernel, Jiri Kosina,
	Benjamin Tissoires, xiongfeng.wang

Hi

On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 12:09 AM Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org> wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 9:40 AM, Laura Abbott <labbott@redhat.com> wrote:
[...]
> > Can we switch to strscpy instead? This will quiet gcc and avoid the
> > issues with strlcpy.
>
> Yes please: it looks like these strings are expected to be NUL
> terminated, so strscpy() without the "- 1" and min() logic would be
> the correct solution here.

"the correct solution"? To my knowledge the original code was correct
as well. Am I missing something?

>                            If @hid is already zero, then this would
> just be:
>
>        strscpy(hid->name, ev->u.create2.name, sizeof(hid->name));
>        strscpy(hid->phys, ev->u.create2.phys, sizeof(hid->phys));
>        strscpy(hid->uniq, ev->u.create2.uniq, sizeof(hid->uniq));
>
> If they are NOT NUL terminated, then keep using strncpy() but mark the
> fields in the struct with the __nonstring attribute.

They are supposed to be NUL terminated, but for compatibility reasons
we allow them to be not. So I don't think your proposal is safe.

Thanks
David

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread

* Re: [PATCH] Revert "HID: uhid: use strlcpy() instead of strncpy()"
  2018-11-15 11:55     ` David Herrmann
@ 2018-11-16  1:10       ` Kees Cook
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Kees Cook @ 2018-11-16  1:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: David Herrmann
  Cc: Laura Abbott, open list:HID CORE LAYER, linux-kernel,
	Jiri Kosina, Benjamin Tissoires, Xiongfeng Wang

On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 5:55 AM, David Herrmann <dh.herrmann@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi
>
> On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 12:09 AM Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org> wrote:
>> On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 9:40 AM, Laura Abbott <labbott@redhat.com> wrote:
> [...]
>> > Can we switch to strscpy instead? This will quiet gcc and avoid the
>> > issues with strlcpy.
>>
>> Yes please: it looks like these strings are expected to be NUL
>> terminated, so strscpy() without the "- 1" and min() logic would be
>> the correct solution here.
>
> "the correct solution"? To my knowledge the original code was correct
> as well. Am I missing something?

So, yes, no one should use strlcpy():
https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/process/deprecated.html#strlcpy

And while I think nothing was technically wrong with the strncpy()
usage in the original version, I think strncpy() should only be used
for __nonstring cases:
https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/process/deprecated.html#strncpy-on-nul-terminated-strings

>
>>                            If @hid is already zero, then this would
>> just be:
>>
>>        strscpy(hid->name, ev->u.create2.name, sizeof(hid->name));
>>        strscpy(hid->phys, ev->u.create2.phys, sizeof(hid->phys));
>>        strscpy(hid->uniq, ev->u.create2.uniq, sizeof(hid->uniq));
>>
>> If they are NOT NUL terminated, then keep using strncpy() but mark the
>> fields in the struct with the __nonstring attribute.
>
> They are supposed to be NUL terminated, but for compatibility reasons
> we allow them to be not. So I don't think your proposal is safe.

I was originally thinking only about the the hid->* strings, so I was
confused by this answer (they appear to always be NUL-terminated).
Then I thought you meant that ev->u.create2.* strings may not be
terminated, but I stayed confused. :)

The original code was:

        len = min(sizeof(hid->name), sizeof(ev->u.create2.name)) - 1;
        strncpy(hid->name, ev->u.create2.name, len);

If sizeof(hid->name) is smaller than sizeof(ev->u.create2.name), it
made sure than hid->name kept a trailing NUL.

If sizeof(ev->u.create2.name) is smaller than sizeof(hid->name), it
made sure than the last byte of ev->u.create2.name was ignored, and by
definition, hid->name would be NUL-terminated.

So you're converting from a potentially unterminated string into a
terminated string... (ev->u.create2.name maybe needs to be marked
__nonstring?)

The most you can write is sizeof(dest) - 1 but you must not read more
than sizeof(source). So I see that if the destination is smaller than
the source, you cannot represent these conditions correctly to
strscpy(). (And, I would argue, you can't with strncpy() either.)

However, they're all exactly the same size, so none of this matters,
and I think strscpy() would be the most sensible. And maybe you could
enforce the size checking:

        BUILD_BUG_ON(sizeof(hid->name) != sizeof(ev->u.create2.name));
        strscpy(hid->name, ev->u.create2.name, sizeof(hid->name));

etc...

-- 
Kees Cook

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* Re: [PATCH] Revert "HID: uhid: use strlcpy() instead of strncpy()"
  2018-11-14 13:16 [PATCH] Revert "HID: uhid: use strlcpy() instead of strncpy()" David Herrmann
  2018-11-14 15:40 ` Laura Abbott
@ 2018-11-19 13:33 ` Jiri Kosina
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Jiri Kosina @ 2018-11-19 13:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: David Herrmann; +Cc: linux-input, linux-kernel, benjamin.tissoires

On Wed, 14 Nov 2018, David Herrmann wrote:

> This reverts commit 336fd4f5f25157e9e8bd50e898a1bbcd99eaea46.
> 
> Please note that `strlcpy()` does *NOT* do what you think it does.
> strlcpy() *ALWAYS* reads the full input string, regardless of the
> 'length' parameter. That is, if the input is not zero-terminated,
> strlcpy() will *READ* beyond input boundaries. It does this, because it
> always returns the size it *would* copy if the target was big enough,
> not the truncated size it actually copied.
> 
> The original code was perfectly fine. The hid device is
> zero-initialized and the strncpy() functions copied up to n-1
> characters. The result is always zero-terminated this way.
> 
> This is the third time someone tried to replace strncpy with strlcpy in
> this function, and gets it wrong. I now added a comment that should at
> least make people reconsider.
> 
> Signed-off-by: David Herrmann <dh.herrmann@gmail.com>
> ---
>  drivers/hid/uhid.c | 13 +++++++------
>  1 file changed, 7 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/drivers/hid/uhid.c b/drivers/hid/uhid.c
> index fefedc0b4dc6..0dfdd0ac7120 100644
> --- a/drivers/hid/uhid.c
> +++ b/drivers/hid/uhid.c
> @@ -496,12 +496,13 @@ static int uhid_dev_create2(struct uhid_device *uhid,
>  		goto err_free;
>  	}
>  
> -	len = min(sizeof(hid->name), sizeof(ev->u.create2.name));
> -	strlcpy(hid->name, ev->u.create2.name, len);
> -	len = min(sizeof(hid->phys), sizeof(ev->u.create2.phys));
> -	strlcpy(hid->phys, ev->u.create2.phys, len);
> -	len = min(sizeof(hid->uniq), sizeof(ev->u.create2.uniq));
> -	strlcpy(hid->uniq, ev->u.create2.uniq, len);
> +	/* @hid is zero-initialized, strncpy() is correct, strlcpy() not */
> +	len = min(sizeof(hid->name), sizeof(ev->u.create2.name)) - 1;
> +	strncpy(hid->name, ev->u.create2.name, len);
> +	len = min(sizeof(hid->phys), sizeof(ev->u.create2.phys)) - 1;
> +	strncpy(hid->phys, ev->u.create2.phys, len);
> +	len = min(sizeof(hid->uniq), sizeof(ev->u.create2.uniq)) - 1;
> +	strncpy(hid->uniq, ev->u.create2.uniq, len);

Applied, thanks.

-- 
Jiri Kosina
SUSE Labs


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