From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=3.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_PASS,URIBL_BLOCKED,USER_AGENT_MUTT autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C387AC43441 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2018 16:56:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 957D4208E3 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2018 16:56:38 +0000 (UTC) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mail.kernel.org 957D4208E3 Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dmarc=fail (p=none dis=none) header.from=intel.com Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S2404320AbeKTDUv (ORCPT ); Mon, 19 Nov 2018 22:20:51 -0500 Received: from mga14.intel.com ([192.55.52.115]:6527 "EHLO mga14.intel.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S2404073AbeKTDUt (ORCPT ); Mon, 19 Nov 2018 22:20:49 -0500 X-Amp-Result: UNKNOWN X-Amp-Original-Verdict: FILE UNKNOWN X-Amp-File-Uploaded: False Received: from fmsmga006.fm.intel.com ([10.253.24.20]) by fmsmga103.fm.intel.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 19 Nov 2018 08:56:35 -0800 X-ExtLoop1: 1 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.56,253,1539673200"; d="scan'208";a="282412068" Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([10.232.112.69]) by fmsmga006.fm.intel.com with ESMTP; 19 Nov 2018 08:56:34 -0800 Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2018 09:53:18 -0700 From: Keith Busch To: Tyler Baicar Cc: okaya@kernel.org, mr.nuke.me@gmail.com, helgaas@google.com, austin_bolen@dell.com, alex_gagniuc@dellteam.com, Shyam_Iyer@dell.com, lukas@wunner.de, bhelgaas@google.com, rjw@rjwysocki.net, lenb@kernel.org, ruscur@russell.cc, sbobroff@linux.ibm.com, oohall@gmail.com, linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, Linux Kernel Mailing List , linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] PCI/AER: Consistently use _OSC to determine who owns AER Message-ID: <20181119165318.GB26595@localhost.localdomain> References: <20181115231605.24352-1-mr.nuke.me@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.9.1 (2017-09-22) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 11:53:05AM -0500, Tyler Baicar wrote: > On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 8:49 PM Sinan Kaya wrote: > > > > On 11/15/2018 3:16 PM, Alexandru Gagniuc wrote: > > > I've asked around a few people at Dell and they unanimously agree that > > > _OSC is the correct way to determine ownership of AER. In linux, we > > > use the result of _OSC to enable AER services, but we use HEST to > > > determine AER ownership. That's inconsistent. This series drops the > > > use of HEST in favor of _OSC. > > > > > > [1]https://lkml.org/lkml/2018/11/15/62 > > > > This change breaks the existing systems that rely on the HEST table > > telling the operating system about firmware first presence. > > > > Besides, HEST table has much more granularity about which PCI component > > needs firmware such as global/device/switch. > > > > You should probably circulate these ideas for wider consumption in UEFI > > forum as UEFI owns the HEST table definition. > > I agree with Sinan, this will break existing systems, and the granularity of the > HEST definition is more useful than the single bit in _OSC. But we're not using HEST as a fine grain control. We disable native AER handling if *any* device has FF set in HEST, and that just forces people to use pcie_ports=native to get around that.