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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	x86@kernel.org, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz>,
	Tom Lendacky <thomas.lendacky@amd.com>,
	Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>,
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	Casey Schaufler <casey.schaufler@intel.com>,
	Asit Mallick <asit.k.mallick@intel.com>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@linux.intel.com>,
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	Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
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Subject: Re: [patch 24/24] x86/speculation: Add seccomp Spectre v2 app to app protection mode
Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2018 08:26:19 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181122072619.GC41788@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181121201724.602740969@linutronix.de>


* Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de> wrote:

> From: Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz>
> 
> If 'prctl' mode of app2app protection from spectre v2 is selected on the
> kernel command-line, STIBP and IBPB are applied on tasks which restrict
> their indirect branch speculation via prctl.
> 
> SECCOMP enables the SSBD mitigation for sandboxed tasks already, so it
> makes sense to prevent spectre v2 application to application attacks as
> well.
> 
> The mitigation guide documents how STIPB works:
>     
>    Setting bit 1 (STIBP) of the IA32_SPEC_CTRL MSR on a logical processor
>    prevents the predicted targets of indirect branches on any logical
>    processor of that core from being controlled by software that executes
>    (or executed previously) on another logical processor of the same core.
>     
> Ergo setting STIBP protects the task itself from being attacked from a task
> running on a different hyper-thread and protects the tasks running on
> different hyper-threads from being attacked.
>     
> IBPB is issued when the task switches out, so malicious sandbox code cannot
> mistrain the branch predictor for the next user space task on the same
> logical processor.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz>
> Signed-off-by: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
> 
> ---
>  Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt |    7 +++++-
>  arch/x86/include/asm/nospec-branch.h            |    1 
>  arch/x86/kernel/cpu/bugs.c                      |   27 +++++++++++++++++++-----
>  3 files changed, 29 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-)
> 
> --- a/Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt
> +++ b/Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt
> @@ -4228,10 +4228,15 @@
>  				  by spectre_v2=off
>  			auto    - Kernel selects the mitigation depending on
>  				  the available CPU features and vulnerability.
> -				  Default is prctl.
>  			prctl   - Indirect branch speculation is enabled, but
>  				  mitigation can be enabled via prctl per thread.
>  				  The mitigation control state is inherited on fork.
> +			seccomp - Same as "prctl" above, but all seccomp threads
> +				  will enable the mitigation unless they explicitly
> +				  opt out.
> +
> +			Default mitigation:
> +			If CONFIG_SECCOMP=y "seccomp", otherwise "prctl"
>  
>  			Not specifying this option is equivalent to
>  			spectre_v2_app2app=auto.
> --- a/arch/x86/include/asm/nospec-branch.h
> +++ b/arch/x86/include/asm/nospec-branch.h
> @@ -233,6 +233,7 @@ enum spectre_v2_app2app_mitigation {
>  	SPECTRE_V2_APP2APP_NONE,
>  	SPECTRE_V2_APP2APP_STRICT,
>  	SPECTRE_V2_APP2APP_PRCTL,
> +	SPECTRE_V2_APP2APP_SECCOMP,
>  };
>  
>  /* The Speculative Store Bypass disable variants */
> --- a/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/bugs.c
> +++ b/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/bugs.c
> @@ -256,12 +256,14 @@ enum spectre_v2_app2app_cmd {
>  	SPECTRE_V2_APP2APP_CMD_AUTO,
>  	SPECTRE_V2_APP2APP_CMD_FORCE,
>  	SPECTRE_V2_APP2APP_CMD_PRCTL,
> +	SPECTRE_V2_APP2APP_CMD_SECCOMP,
>  };
>  
>  static const char *spectre_v2_app2app_strings[] = {
>  	[SPECTRE_V2_APP2APP_NONE]	= "App-App Vulnerable",
> -	[SPECTRE_V2_APP2APP_STRICT]	= "App-App Mitigation: STIBP protection",
> -	[SPECTRE_V2_APP2APP_PRCTL]	= "App-App Mitigation: STIBP via prctl",
> +	[SPECTRE_V2_APP2APP_STRICT]	= "App-App Mitigation: forced protection",
> +	[SPECTRE_V2_APP2APP_PRCTL]	= "App-App Mitigation: prctl opt-in",
> +	[SPECTRE_V2_APP2APP_SECCOMP]	= "App-App Mitigation: seccomp and prctl opt-in",

This description is not accurate: it's not a 'seccomp and prctl opt-in', 
the seccomp functionality is opt-out, the prctl is opt-in.

So something like:

> +	[SPECTRE_V2_APP2APP_SECCOMP]	= "App-App Mitigation: seccomp by default and prctl opt-in",

or so?

>  void arch_seccomp_spec_mitigate(struct task_struct *task)
>  {
>  	if (ssb_mode == SPEC_STORE_BYPASS_SECCOMP)
>  		ssb_prctl_set(task, PR_SPEC_FORCE_DISABLE);
> +	if (spectre_v2_app2app == SPECTRE_V2_APP2APP_SECCOMP)
> +		indir_branch_prctl_set(task, PR_SPEC_FORCE_DISABLE);
>  }
>  #endif

Hm, so isn't arch_seccomp_spec_mitigate() called right before untrusted 
seccomp code is executed? So why are we disabling the mitigation here?

> +	case SPECTRE_V2_APP2APP_SECCOMP:
> +		return ", STIBP: seccomp and prctl opt-in";
> +	case SPECTRE_V2_APP2APP_SECCOMP:
> +		return ", IBPB: seccomp and prctl opt-in";

Same feedback wrt. potentially confusing use of 'opt-in' here, while 
seccomp is more like an opt-out mechanism.

Thanks,

	Ingo

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-11-22  7:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 95+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-11-21 20:14 [patch 00/24] x86/speculation: Remedy the STIBP/IBPB overhead Thomas Gleixner
2018-11-21 20:14 ` [patch 01/24] x86/speculation: Update the TIF_SSBD comment Thomas Gleixner
2018-11-21 20:28   ` Linus Torvalds
2018-11-21 20:30     ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-11-21 20:33     ` Linus Torvalds
2018-11-21 22:48       ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-11-21 22:53         ` Borislav Petkov
2018-11-21 22:55           ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-11-21 22:55           ` Arjan van de Ven
2018-11-21 22:56             ` Borislav Petkov
2018-11-21 23:07               ` Borislav Petkov
2018-11-21 23:04         ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-11-21 23:08           ` Borislav Petkov
2018-11-22 17:30             ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-11-22 17:52               ` Borislav Petkov
2018-11-22 21:17                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-11-21 20:14 ` [patch 02/24] x86/speculation: Clean up spectre_v2_parse_cmdline() Thomas Gleixner
2018-11-21 20:14 ` [patch 03/24] x86/speculation: Remove unnecessary ret variable in cpu_show_common() Thomas Gleixner
2018-11-21 20:14 ` [patch 04/24] x86/speculation: Reorganize cpu_show_common() Thomas Gleixner
2018-11-21 20:14 ` [patch 05/24] x86/speculation: Disable STIBP when enhanced IBRS is in use Thomas Gleixner
2018-11-21 20:33   ` Borislav Petkov
2018-11-21 20:36     ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-11-21 22:01       ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-11-21 20:14 ` [patch 06/24] x86/speculation: Rename SSBD update functions Thomas Gleixner
2018-11-21 20:14 ` [patch 07/24] x86/speculation: Reorganize speculation control MSRs update Thomas Gleixner
2018-11-21 20:14 ` [patch 08/24] sched/smt: Make sched_smt_present track topology Thomas Gleixner
2018-11-21 20:14 ` [patch 09/24] x86/Kconfig: Select SCHED_SMT if SMP enabled Thomas Gleixner
2018-11-21 20:14 ` [patch 10/24] sched/smt: Expose sched_smt_present static key Thomas Gleixner
2018-11-21 20:41   ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-11-21 20:14 ` [patch 11/24] x86/speculation: Rework SMT state change Thomas Gleixner
2018-11-21 20:14 ` [patch 12/24] x86/l1tf: Show actual SMT state Thomas Gleixner
2018-11-21 20:14 ` [patch 13/24] x86/speculation: Reorder the spec_v2 code Thomas Gleixner
2018-11-21 20:14 ` [patch 14/24] x86/speculation: Unify conditional spectre v2 print functions Thomas Gleixner
2018-11-22  7:59   ` Ingo Molnar
2018-11-21 20:14 ` [patch 15/24] x86/speculation: Add command line control for indirect branch speculation Thomas Gleixner
2018-11-21 23:43   ` Borislav Petkov
2018-11-22  8:14     ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-11-22  9:07       ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-11-22  9:18       ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-11-22 10:10         ` Borislav Petkov
2018-11-22 10:48           ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-11-21 20:14 ` [patch 16/24] x86/speculation: Prepare for per task indirect branch speculation control Thomas Gleixner
2018-11-22  7:57   ` Ingo Molnar
2018-11-21 20:14 ` [patch 17/24] x86/speculation: Move IBPB control out of switch_mm() Thomas Gleixner
2018-11-22  0:01   ` Andi Kleen
2018-11-22  7:42     ` Jiri Kosina
2018-11-22  9:18       ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-11-22  1:40   ` Tim Chen
2018-11-22  7:52   ` Ingo Molnar
2018-11-22 22:29     ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-11-21 20:14 ` [patch 18/24] x86/speculation: Avoid __switch_to_xtra() calls Thomas Gleixner
2018-11-22  1:23   ` Tim Chen
2018-11-22  7:44     ` Ingo Molnar
2018-11-21 20:14 ` [patch 19/24] ptrace: Remove unused ptrace_may_access_sched() and MODE_IBRS Thomas Gleixner
2018-11-21 20:14 ` [patch 20/24] x86/speculation: Split out TIF update Thomas Gleixner
2018-11-22  2:13   ` Tim Chen
2018-11-22 23:00     ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-11-23  7:37       ` Ingo Molnar
2018-11-26 18:35         ` Tim Chen
2018-11-26 21:55           ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-11-27  7:05             ` Jiri Kosina
2018-11-27  7:13               ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-11-27  7:30                 ` Jiri Kosina
2018-11-27 12:52                   ` Jiri Kosina
2018-11-27 13:18                     ` Jiri Kosina
2018-11-27 21:57                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-11-27 22:07                       ` Jiri Kosina
2018-11-27 22:20                         ` Jiri Kosina
2018-11-27 22:36                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-11-28  1:50                           ` Tim Chen
2018-11-28 10:43                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-11-28  6:05                           ` Jiri Kosina
2018-11-28 14:33                       ` [tip:x86/pti] x86/speculation: Prevent stale SPEC_CTRL msr content tip-bot for Thomas Gleixner
2018-11-22  7:43   ` [patch 20/24] x86/speculation: Split out TIF update Ingo Molnar
2018-11-22 23:04     ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-11-23  7:37       ` Ingo Molnar
2018-11-21 20:14 ` [patch 21/24] x86/speculation: Prepare arch_smt_update() for PRCTL mode Thomas Gleixner
2018-11-22  7:34   ` Ingo Molnar
2018-11-22 23:17     ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-11-22 23:28       ` Jiri Kosina
2018-11-21 20:14 ` [patch 22/24] x86/speculation: Create PRCTL interface to restrict indirect branch speculation Thomas Gleixner
2018-11-22  7:10   ` Ingo Molnar
2018-11-22  9:03   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-11-22  9:08     ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-11-22 12:26   ` Borislav Petkov
2018-11-22 12:33     ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-11-21 20:14 ` [patch 23/24] x86/speculation: Enable PRCTL mode for spectre_v2_app2app Thomas Gleixner
2018-11-22  7:17   ` Ingo Molnar
2018-11-21 20:14 ` [patch 24/24] x86/speculation: Add seccomp Spectre v2 app to app protection mode Thomas Gleixner
2018-11-22  2:24   ` Tim Chen
2018-11-22  7:26   ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2018-11-22 23:45     ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-11-21 23:48 ` [patch 00/24] x86/speculation: Remedy the STIBP/IBPB overhead Tim Chen
2018-11-22  9:55   ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-11-22  9:45 ` Peter Zijlstra

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