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From: Andrea Parri <andrea.parri@amarulasolutions.com>
To: Gao Xiang <gaoxiang25@huawei.com>
Cc: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	devel@driverdev.osuosl.org, linux-erofs@lists.ozlabs.org,
	Chao Yu <yuchao0@huawei.com>, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	weidu.du@huawei.com, Miao Xie <miaoxie@huawei.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 05/10] staging: erofs: add a full barrier in erofs_workgroup_unfreeze
Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2018 19:50:58 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181122185058.GA3466@andrea> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1d1fd688-0cb5-cbac-9213-f56f7e356bca@huawei.com>

On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 06:56:32PM +0800, Gao Xiang wrote:
> Hi Greg,
> 
> On 2018/11/22 18:22, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> > Please document this memory barrier.  It does not make much sense to
> > me...
> 
> Because we need to make the other observers noticing the latest values modified
> in this locking period before unfreezing the whole workgroup, one way is to use
> a memory barrier and the other way is to use ACQUIRE and RELEASE. we selected
> the first one.
> 
> Hmmm...ok, I will add a simple message to explain this, but I think that is
> plain enough for a lock...

Sympathizing with Greg's request, let me add some specific suggestions:

  1. It wouldn't hurt to indicate a pair of memory accesses which are
     intended to be "ordered" by the memory barrier in question (yes,
     this pair might not be unique, but you should be able to provide
     an example).

  2. Memory barriers always come matched by other memory barriers, or
     dependencies (it really does not make sense to talk about a full
     barrier "in isolation"): please also indicate (an instance of) a
     matching barrier or the matching barriers.

  3. How do the hardware threads communicate?  In the acquire/release
     pattern you mentioned above, the load-acquire *reads from* a/the
     previous store-release, a memory access that follows the acquire
     somehow communicate with a memory access preceding the release...

  4. It is a good practice to include the above information within an
     (inline) comment accompanying the added memory barrier (in fact,
     IIRC, checkpatch.pl gives you a "memory barrier without comment"
     warning when you omit to do so); not just in the commit message.

Hope this helps.  Please let me know if something I wrote is unclear,

  Andrea


> 
> Thanks,
> Gao Xiang
> 
> > 
> > thanks,
> > 
> > greg k-h

  reply	other threads:[~2018-11-22 18:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-11-20 14:34 [PATCH 00/10] staging: erofs: decompression stability enhancement Gao Xiang
2018-11-20 14:34 ` [PATCH 01/10] staging: erofs: fix `trace_erofs_readpage' position Gao Xiang
2018-11-22 10:19   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-11-22 10:49     ` Gao Xiang
2018-11-22 11:00       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-11-20 14:34 ` [PATCH 02/10] staging: erofs: fix race when the managed cache is enabled Gao Xiang
2018-11-22 10:17   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-11-22 10:42     ` Gao Xiang
2018-11-22 11:06       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-11-22 11:43         ` Gao Xiang
2018-11-22 12:26           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-11-22 12:41             ` Gao Xiang
2018-11-22 13:20               ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-11-22 10:19   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-11-20 14:34 ` [PATCH 03/10] staging: erofs: atomic_cond_read_relaxed on ref-locked workgroup Gao Xiang
2018-11-22 10:20   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-11-20 14:34 ` [PATCH 04/10] staging: erofs: fix `erofs_workgroup_{try_to_freeze, unfreeze}' Gao Xiang
2018-11-22 10:21   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-11-22 10:29     ` Gao Xiang
2018-11-22 11:03       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-11-22 11:05       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-11-22 11:22         ` Gao Xiang
2018-11-20 14:34 ` [PATCH 05/10] staging: erofs: add a full barrier in erofs_workgroup_unfreeze Gao Xiang
2018-11-22 10:22   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-11-22 10:56     ` Gao Xiang
2018-11-22 18:50       ` Andrea Parri [this message]
2018-11-23  2:51         ` Gao Xiang
2018-11-23  9:51           ` Andrea Parri
2018-11-23 10:00             ` Gao Xiang
2018-11-20 14:34 ` [PATCH 06/10] staging: erofs: fix the definition of DBG_BUGON Gao Xiang
2018-11-20 14:34 ` [PATCH 07/10] staging: erofs: separate into init_once / always Gao Xiang
2018-11-22 10:23   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-11-22 10:34     ` Gao Xiang
2018-11-22 11:05       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-11-22 11:11         ` Gao Xiang
2018-11-22 11:26           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-11-22 11:37             ` Gao Xiang
2018-11-22 12:00             ` Gao Xiang
2018-11-22 13:01               ` Gao Xiang
2018-11-22 13:23                 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-11-22 13:59                   ` Gao Xiang
2018-11-20 14:34 ` [PATCH 08/10] staging: erofs: locked before registering for all new workgroups Gao Xiang
2018-11-22 10:24   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-11-22 10:35     ` Gao Xiang
2018-11-20 14:34 ` [PATCH 09/10] staging: erofs: decompress asynchronously if PG_readahead page at first Gao Xiang
2018-11-20 14:34 ` [PATCH 10/10] staging: erofs: rename strange variable names in z_erofs_vle_frontend Gao Xiang

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