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From: Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 11/14] function_graph: Convert ret_stack to a series of longs
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2018 17:38:50 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181128013850.GA19606@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181126112603.6c5519dd@gandalf.local.home>

On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 11:26:03AM -0500, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Nov 2018 01:07:55 +0900
> Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org> wrote:
> 
> > > > --- a/include/linux/sched.h
> > > > +++ b/include/linux/sched.h
> > > > @@ -1119,7 +1119,7 @@ struct task_struct {
> > > >  	int				curr_ret_depth;
> > > >  
> > > >  	/* Stack of return addresses for return function tracing: */
> > > > -	struct ftrace_ret_stack		*ret_stack;
> > > > +	unsigned long			*ret_stack;
> > > >  
> > > >  	/* Timestamp for last schedule: */
> > > >  	unsigned long long		ftrace_timestamp;
> > > > diff --git a/kernel/trace/fgraph.c b/kernel/trace/fgraph.c
> > > > index 9b85638ecded..1389fe39f64c 100644
> > > > --- a/kernel/trace/fgraph.c
> > > > +++ b/kernel/trace/fgraph.c
> > > > @@ -23,6 +23,17 @@
> > > >  #define ASSIGN_OPS_HASH(opsname, val)
> > > >  #endif
> > > >  
> > > > +#define FGRAPH_RET_SIZE (sizeof(struct ftrace_ret_stack))
> > > > +#define FGRAPH_RET_INDEX (ALIGN(FGRAPH_RET_SIZE, sizeof(long)) / sizeof(long))
> > > > +#define SHADOW_STACK_SIZE (FTRACE_RETFUNC_DEPTH * FGRAPH_RET_SIZE)
> > > > +#define SHADOW_STACK_INDEX			\
> > > > +	(ALIGN(SHADOW_STACK_SIZE, sizeof(long)) / sizeof(long))
> > > > +#define SHADOW_STACK_MAX_INDEX (SHADOW_STACK_INDEX - FGRAPH_RET_INDEX)
> > > > +
> > > > +#define RET_STACK(t, index) ((struct ftrace_ret_stack *)(&(t)->ret_stack[index]))
> > > > +#define RET_STACK_INC(c) ({ c += FGRAPH_RET_INDEX; })
> > > > +#define RET_STACK_DEC(c) ({ c -= FGRAPH_RET_INDEX; })
> > > > +  
> > > [...]  
> > > > @@ -514,7 +531,7 @@ void ftrace_graph_init_task(struct task_struct *t)
> > > >  
> > > >  void ftrace_graph_exit_task(struct task_struct *t)
> > > >  {
> > > > -	struct ftrace_ret_stack	*ret_stack = t->ret_stack;
> > > > +	unsigned long *ret_stack = t->ret_stack;
> > > >  
> > > >  	t->ret_stack = NULL;
> > > >  	/* NULL must become visible to IRQs before we free it: */
> > > > @@ -526,12 +543,10 @@ void ftrace_graph_exit_task(struct task_struct *t)
> > > >  /* Allocate a return stack for each task */
> > > >  static int start_graph_tracing(void)
> > > >  {
> > > > -	struct ftrace_ret_stack **ret_stack_list;
> > > > +	unsigned long **ret_stack_list;
> > > >  	int ret, cpu;
> > > >  
> > > > -	ret_stack_list = kmalloc_array(FTRACE_RETSTACK_ALLOC_SIZE,
> > > > -				       sizeof(struct ftrace_ret_stack *),
> > > > -				       GFP_KERNEL);
> > > > +	ret_stack_list = kmalloc(SHADOW_STACK_SIZE, GFP_KERNEL);
> > > >    
> > > 
> > > I had dumped the fgraph size related macros to understand the patch better, I
> > > got:
> > > [    0.909528] val of FGRAPH_RET_SIZE is 40
> > > [    0.910250] val of FGRAPH_RET_INDEX is 5
> > > [    0.910866] val of FGRAPH_ARRAY_SIZE is 16
> > > [    0.911488] val of FGRAPH_ARRAY_MASK is 255
> > > [    0.912134] val of FGRAPH_MAX_INDEX is 16
> > > [    0.912751] val of FGRAPH_INDEX_SHIFT is 8
> > > [    0.913382] val of FGRAPH_FRAME_SIZE is 168
> > > [    0.914033] val of FGRAPH_FRAME_INDEX is 21
> > >                       FTRACE_RETFUNC_DEPTH is 50
> > > [    0.914686] val of SHADOW_STACK_SIZE is 8400
> > > 
> > > I had a concern about memory overhead per-task. It seems the total memory
> > > needed per task for the stack is 8400 bytes (with my configuration with
> > > FUNCTION_PROFILE
> > > turned off).
> > > 
> > > Where as before it would be 32 * 40 = 1280 bytes. That looks like ~7 times
> > > more than before.  
> > 
> > Hmm, this seems too big... I thought the shadow-stack size should be
> > smaller than 1 page (4kB). Steve, can we give a 4k page for shadow stack
> > and define FTRACE_RETFUNC_DEPTH = 4096 / FGRAPH_RET_SIZE ?
> 
> For the first pass, I decided not to worry about the size. It made the
> code less complex :-)
> 
> Yes, I plan on working on making the size of the stack smaller, but
> that will probably be added on patches to do so.

Cool, sounds good.

> > > On my system with ~4000 threads, that becomes ~32MB which seems a bit
> > > wasteful especially if there was only one or 2 function graph callbacks
> > > registered and most of the callback array in the stack isn't used.
> 
> Note, all 4000 threads could be doing those trace backs, and if you are
> doing full function graph tracing, it will use a lot.

But I think each of the threads will only use N entries in the callback array
where N is the number of function graph callback users who registered, right?
So the remaining total-N allocated callback array entries per thread will not
be used.

> > > Could we make the array size configurable at compile time and start it with a
> > > small number like 4 or 6?  
> > 
> > Or, we can introduce online setting :)
> 
> Yes, that can easily be added. I didn't try to make this into the
> perfect solution, I wanted a solid one first, and then massage it into
> something that is more efficient, both with memory consumption and
> performance.
> 
> Joel and Masami, thanks for the feedback.

I agree the first step is good so far. Looking forward to the patches, thanks
a lot,

 - Joel


  reply	other threads:[~2018-11-28  1:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-11-22  1:27 [RFC][PATCH 00/14] function_graph: Rewrite to allow multiple users Steven Rostedt
2018-11-22  1:27 ` [RFC][PATCH 01/14] fgraph: Create a fgraph.c file to store function graph infrastructure Steven Rostedt
2018-11-22  1:27 ` [RFC][PATCH 02/14] fgraph: Have set_graph_notrace only affect function_graph tracer Steven Rostedt
2018-11-23  0:01   ` Namhyung Kim
2018-11-23 17:37     ` Steven Rostedt
2018-11-24  5:49       ` Namhyung Kim
2018-11-24 18:41         ` Steven Rostedt
2018-11-26  4:54           ` Namhyung Kim
2018-11-22  1:27 ` [RFC][PATCH 03/14] arm64: function_graph: Remove use of FTRACE_NOTRACE_DEPTH Steven Rostedt
2018-11-27 19:31   ` Will Deacon
2018-11-27 19:50     ` Steven Rostedt
2018-12-05 21:50       ` [PATCH 03/14 v2] " Steven Rostedt
2018-11-22  1:27 ` [RFC][PATCH 04/14] function_graph: Remove the " Steven Rostedt
2018-11-22  1:27 ` [RFC][PATCH 05/14] ftrace: Create new ftrace-internal.h header Steven Rostedt
2018-11-22  1:27 ` [RFC][PATCH 06/14] fgraph: Move function graph specific code into fgraph.c Steven Rostedt
2018-11-23  6:11   ` Joel Fernandes
2018-11-23 17:58     ` Steven Rostedt
2018-11-23 18:11       ` Steven Rostedt
2018-11-23 22:13         ` Joel Fernandes
2018-11-26  7:25     ` Masami Hiramatsu
2018-11-22  1:27 ` [RFC][PATCH 07/14] fgraph: Add new fgraph_ops structure to enable function graph hooks Steven Rostedt
2018-11-23  2:59   ` Joel Fernandes
2018-11-23 18:25     ` Steven Rostedt
2018-11-26 11:30   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2018-11-26 21:06     ` Steven Rostedt
2018-11-22  1:27 ` [RFC][PATCH 08/14] function_graph: Remove unused task_curr_ret_stack() Steven Rostedt
2018-11-26  7:40   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2018-11-26 21:26     ` Steven Rostedt
2018-11-26 10:02   ` Joey Pabalinas
2018-11-26 21:27     ` Steven Rostedt
2018-11-26 21:37       ` Joey Pabalinas
2018-11-22  1:27 ` [RFC][PATCH 09/14] function_graph: Move ftrace_graph_get_addr() to fgraph.c Steven Rostedt
2018-11-23  3:13   ` Joel Fernandes
2018-11-23 19:25     ` Steven Rostedt
2018-11-22  1:27 ` [RFC][PATCH 10/14] function_graph: Have profiler use new helper ftrace_graph_get_ret_stack() Steven Rostedt
2018-11-22  1:27 ` [RFC][PATCH 11/14] function_graph: Convert ret_stack to a series of longs Steven Rostedt
2018-11-24  5:31   ` Joel Fernandes
2018-11-26 16:07     ` Masami Hiramatsu
2018-11-26 16:26       ` Steven Rostedt
2018-11-28  1:38         ` Joel Fernandes [this message]
2018-11-26 21:31     ` Steven Rostedt
2018-11-22  1:27 ` [RFC][PATCH 12/14] function_graph: Add an array structure that will allow multiple callbacks Steven Rostedt
2018-11-22  1:27 ` [RFC][PATCH 13/14] function_graph: Allow multiple users to attach to function graph Steven Rostedt
2018-11-22  1:27 ` [RFC][PATCH 14/14] function_graph: Allow for more than one callback to be registered Steven Rostedt
2018-11-22 10:08 ` [RFC][PATCH 00/14] function_graph: Rewrite to allow multiple users Peter Zijlstra
2018-11-22 12:46   ` Steven Rostedt
2018-11-22 13:42     ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-11-26  9:21 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2018-11-26 16:32   ` Steven Rostedt
2018-11-29 14:29     ` Masami Hiramatsu
2018-11-29 16:46       ` Steven Rostedt
2018-11-30  2:26         ` Masami Hiramatsu
2018-11-30  3:24           ` Steven Rostedt
2018-11-30 14:11             ` Masami Hiramatsu

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