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From: Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>, X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>,
	Jason Baron <jbaron@akamai.com>, Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz>,
	David Laight <David.Laight@aculab.com>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	julia@ni.com, jeyu@kernel.org, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 4/4] x86/static_call: Add inline static call implementation for x86-64
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2018 16:17:45 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181129221745.jxxqjsocergfzrb4@treble> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181129202452.56f4j2wdct6qbaqo@treble>

On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 02:24:52PM -0600, Josh Poimboeuf wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 11:27:00AM -0800, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> > On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 11:08 AM Linus Torvalds
> > <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 10:58 AM Linus Torvalds
> > > <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > In contrast, if the call was wrapped in an inline asm, we'd *know* the
> > > > compiler couldn't turn a "call wrapper(%rip)" into anything else.
> > >
> > > Actually, I think I have a better model - if the caller is done with inline asm.
> > >
> > > What you can do then is basically add a single-byte prefix to the
> > > "call" instruction that does nothing (say, cs override), and then
> > > replace *that* with a 'int3' instruction.
> > >
> > > Boom. Done.
> > >
> > > Now, the "int3" handler can just update the instruction in-place, but
> > > leave the "int3" in place, and then return to the next instruction
> > > byte (which is just the normal branch instruction without the prefix
> > > byte).
> > >
> > > The cross-CPU case continues to work, because the 'int3' remains in
> > > place until after the IPI.
> > 
> > Hmm, cute.  But then the calls are in inline asm, which results in
> > giant turds like we have for the pvop vcalls.  And, if they start
> > being used more generally, we potentially have ABI issues where the
> > calling convention isn't quite what the asm expects, and we explode.
> > 
> > I propose a different solution:
> > 
> > As in this patch set, we have a direct and an indirect version.  The
> > indirect version remains exactly the same as in this patch set.  The
> > direct version just only does the patching when all seems well: the
> > call instruction needs to be 0xe8, and we only do it when the thing
> > doesn't cross a cache line.  Does that work?  In the rare case where
> > the compiler generates something other than 0xe8 or crosses a cache
> > line, then the thing just remains as a call to the out of line jmp
> > trampoline.  Does that seem reasonable?  It's a very minor change to
> > the patch set.
> 
> Maybe that would be ok.  If my math is right, we would use the
> out-of-line version almost 5% of the time due to cache misalignment of
> the address.

BTW, this means that if any of a trampoline's callers crosses cache
boundaries then we won't be able to poison the trampoline.  Which is
kind of sad.

-- 
Josh

  reply	other threads:[~2018-11-29 22:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 120+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-11-26 13:54 [PATCH v2 0/4] Static calls Josh Poimboeuf
2018-11-26 13:54 ` [PATCH v2 1/4] compiler.h: Make __ADDRESSABLE() symbol truly unique Josh Poimboeuf
2018-11-27  8:49   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-11-26 13:54 ` [PATCH v2 2/4] static_call: Add static call infrastructure Josh Poimboeuf
2018-11-26 13:54 ` [PATCH v2 3/4] x86/static_call: Add out-of-line static call implementation Josh Poimboeuf
2018-11-26 15:43   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-11-26 16:19     ` Steven Rostedt
2018-11-26 13:55 ` [PATCH v2 4/4] x86/static_call: Add inline static call implementation for x86-64 Josh Poimboeuf
2018-11-26 16:02   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-11-26 17:10     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-11-26 17:56       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-11-26 20:00         ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-11-26 20:08         ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-11-26 21:26           ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-11-27  8:43             ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-11-27  8:50               ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-11-29  6:05               ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-29  9:42                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-11-29 13:11                   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-11-29 13:37                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-29 14:38                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-11-29 14:42                       ` Jiri Kosina
2018-11-29 16:33                       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-11-29 16:49                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-11-29 16:59                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-29 17:10                             ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-11-29 22:01                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-11-29 22:14                                 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-11-29 22:22                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-11-29 22:25                                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-29 22:30                                       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-11-29 17:15                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-11-29 17:20                               ` Steven Rostedt
2018-11-29 17:21                                 ` Steven Rostedt
2018-11-29 17:41                                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-29 17:45                                     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-11-29 17:52                                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-29 17:49                                     ` Steven Rostedt
2018-11-29 18:37                               ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-11-29 16:50                         ` Linus Torvalds
2018-11-29 16:55                           ` Steven Rostedt
2018-11-29 17:02                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-29 17:07                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-11-29 17:31                               ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-29 17:35                                 ` Jiri Kosina
2018-11-29 17:13                             ` Steven Rostedt
2018-11-29 17:35                               ` Linus Torvalds
2018-11-29 17:44                                 ` Steven Rostedt
2018-11-29 17:50                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2018-11-29 17:54                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2018-11-29 17:58                                     ` Steven Rostedt
2018-11-29 18:23                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2018-11-29 18:47                                         ` Steven Rostedt
2018-11-29 18:58                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2018-11-29 19:08                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2018-11-29 19:11                                               ` Linus Torvalds
2018-12-10 23:58                                                 ` Pavel Machek
2018-12-11  1:43                                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2018-11-29 19:12                                               ` Steven Rostedt
2018-11-29 19:27                                               ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-29 20:24                                                 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-11-29 22:17                                                   ` Josh Poimboeuf [this message]
2018-11-29 23:04                                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2018-11-30 16:27                                                     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-12-11  9:41                                                       ` David Laight
2018-12-11 17:19                                                         ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-12-12 18:29                                                     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-11-30 16:42                                                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-30 18:39                                                     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-11-30 19:45                                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2018-11-30 20:18                                                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-30 20:28                                                           ` Steven Rostedt
2018-11-30 20:59                                                             ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-30 21:01                                                               ` Steven Rostedt
2018-11-30 21:13                                                               ` Jiri Kosina
2018-11-30 21:10                                                           ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-11-29 19:16                                             ` Steven Rostedt
2018-11-29 19:22                                               ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-11-29 19:27                                                 ` Steven Rostedt
2018-11-30 22:16                                                 ` Rasmus Villemoes
2018-11-30 22:24                                                   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-11-29 19:24                                               ` Linus Torvalds
2018-11-29 19:28                                                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-29 19:31                                                 ` Steven Rostedt
2018-11-29 20:12                                             ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-11-29 18:00                                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-29 18:42                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2018-11-29 18:55                                       ` Steven Rostedt
2018-11-29 17:29                             ` Linus Torvalds
2018-11-29 17:35                               ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-26 18:28       ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-26 20:14         ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-11-27  8:46           ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-11-26 16:08   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-11-26 16:11     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-11-26 16:33       ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-26 16:39       ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-11-26 16:44         ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-11-26 14:01 ` [PATCH v2 0/4] Static calls Josh Poimboeuf
2018-11-26 20:54 ` Steven Rostedt
2018-11-26 22:24   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-11-26 22:53     ` Steven Rostedt
2018-12-04 23:08 ` Steven Rostedt
2018-12-04 23:41   ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-12-05 15:04     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-12-05 23:36       ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-12-07 16:06 ` Edward Cree
2018-12-07 16:49   ` Edward Cree
2018-12-11 18:05   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-12-12  5:59     ` Nadav Amit
2018-12-12 17:11       ` Edward Cree
2018-12-12 17:47         ` [RFC/WIP PATCH 0/2] dynamic calls Edward Cree
2018-12-12 17:50           ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] static_call: fix out-of-line static call implementation Edward Cree
2018-12-12 17:52           ` [RFC PATCH 2/2] net: core: rather hacky PoC implementation of dynamic calls Edward Cree
2018-12-12 18:14         ` [PATCH v2 0/4] Static calls Nadav Amit
2018-12-12 18:33           ` Edward Cree
2018-12-12 21:15             ` Nadav Amit
2018-12-12 21:36               ` Edward Cree
2018-12-12 21:45                 ` Nadav Amit
2018-12-10 23:57 ` Pavel Machek

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