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From: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>
To: Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@i-love.sakura.ne.jp>
Cc: Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>,
	Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky.work@gmail.com>,
	Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky@gmail.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] printk: Add caller information to printk() output.
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2018 16:27:24 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181204152724.ypk44mi4a56nrud4@pathway.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b38c6957-c3c1-54fc-781e-06d7eed6a9b1@i-love.sakura.ne.jp>

On Tue 2018-12-04 06:10:40, Tetsuo Handa wrote:
> On 2018/12/04 0:06, Petr Mladek wrote:
> >> If we modify print_time(), I think that the leading spaces inserted by "%5lu"
> >> makes little sense, for "%5lu" is too small for systems with uptime >= 1.16 days
> >> and parsers after all cannot assume fixed length for the timestamp field. Then,
> >> we could change from "%5lu.%06lu" to "%lu.%06lu" so that parsers (like /bin/awk)
> >> can get prefix part using white spaces as a delimiter.
> > 
> > My primary concern was a human readability. The different header columns
> > are separated by brackets and the message itself is separated by the space.
> 
> PID_MAX_LIMIT is 4194304, which can take up to 10 bytes if [T%u] is used.

4194304 is the worst case. I would use the same approach as with the
timestamp seconds. It uses 5 characters as the minimum. But it might
eventully get bigger.

IMHO, [T%5u] looks like a reasonable default.


> But unless a race occurs, each series of printk() lines are printed with
> same width.

It is not about series of printk() lines. It is about readability of the
entire log.


> My concern is how to minimize number of characters written to
> consoles, for writing to consoles are slow, and userspace usually uses
> /dev/kmsg rather than netconsole as a source. For normal users who do not
> need to directly parse console/netconsole output, saving spaces in the header
> fields will be OK.

The number of characters is important. But we do not need to get to the
extreme. Readability by humans is important.


> > /dev/kmsg uses key=value notation. It does not need any version. The
> > version filed was intended for crashdump. It would make the life
> > easier for its maintainers.
> 
> If the version field is for crashdump rather than for netconsole, we can
> get it from some vmcoreinfo variable rather than appending to every record.

Exactly. And I asked you to add back
VMCOREINFO_OFFSET(printk_log, from_id).

Best Regards,
Petr

  reply	other threads:[~2018-12-04 15:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-11-24  7:37 [PATCH] printk: Add caller information to printk() output Tetsuo Handa
2018-11-30 15:40 ` Petr Mladek
2018-12-01 14:44   ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-12-02 11:23     ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-12-04  2:02       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2018-12-04 10:16         ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-12-04 10:38           ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2018-12-04 15:31           ` Petr Mladek
2018-12-03 15:06     ` Petr Mladek
2018-12-03 21:10       ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-12-04 15:27         ` Petr Mladek [this message]
2018-12-05 10:42           ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-12-05 11:50             ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2018-12-07  4:58               ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-12-07  5:31                 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2018-12-10 13:09             ` Petr Mladek
2018-12-10 14:01               ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-12-11 10:26                 ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-12-12  2:25                   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2018-12-12  2:29                     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2018-12-13 12:18                   ` Petr Mladek
2018-12-13 12:42                     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2018-12-17 14:54                       ` Petr Mladek
2018-12-17 15:40                         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2018-12-17 21:05                         ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-12-18  8:39                           ` Petr Mladek
2018-12-18  8:58                             ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-01-02 16:09                               ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-01-03 18:27                                 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2019-01-04  7:33                                   ` Fengguang Wu
2019-01-11 19:34                                   ` Kevin Hilman
2019-01-10 11:27                               ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-12-18  8:55                           ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2018-12-18 10:01                             ` Petr Mladek
2018-12-18 10:10                               ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-03-21  2:59                           ` Michael Ellerman
2019-03-21 10:20                             ` Petr Mladek
2019-03-22  0:48                               ` Michael Ellerman

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