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From: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>
To: Christian Brauner <christian@brauner.io>
Cc: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-api@vger.kernel.org,
	luto@kernel.org, arnd@arndb.de, serge@hallyn.com,
	jannh@google.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org, oleg@redhat.com,
	cyphar@cyphar.com, viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, dancol@google.com,
	timmurray@google.com, linux-man@vger.kernel.org,
	keescook@chromium.org, fweimer@redhat.com, tglx@linutronix.de,
	x86@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4] signal: add taskfd_send_signal() syscall
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2018 18:31:24 -0600
Message-ID: <20181207003124.GA11160@mail.hallyn.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181206231742.xxi4ghn24z4h2qki@brauner.io>

On Fri, Dec 07, 2018 at 12:17:45AM +0100, Christian Brauner wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 06, 2018 at 11:39:48PM +0100, Christian Brauner wrote:
> > On Thu, Dec 06, 2018 at 03:46:53PM -0600, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> > > Christian Brauner <christian@brauner.io> writes:
> > > 
> > > >> Your intention is to add the thread case to support pthreads once the
> > > >> process case is sorted out.  So this is something that needs to be made
> > > >> clear.  Did I miss how you plan to handle threads?
> > > >
> > > > Yeah, maybe you missed it in the commit message [2] which is based on a
> > > > discussion with Andy [3] and Arnd [4]:
> > > 
> > > Looking at your references I haven't missed it.  You are not deciding
> > > anything as of yet to keep it simple.  Except you are returning
> > > EOPNOTSUPP.  You are very much intending to do something.
> > 
> > That was clear all along and was pointed at every occassion in the
> > threads. I even went through the hazzle to give you all of the
> > references when there's lore.kernel.org.
> > 
> > > 
> > > Decide.  Do you use the flags parameter or is the width of the
> > > target depending on the flags.
> 
> Ok, let's try to be constructive. I understand the general concern for
> the future so let's put a contract into the commit message stating that
> the width of the target aka *what is signaled* will be based on a flag
> parameter if we ever extend it:
> 
> taskfd_send_signal(fd, SIGSTOP, NULL, TASKFD_PGID);
> taskfd_send_signal(fd, SIGSTOP, NULL, TASKFD_TID);
> 
> with the current default being
> 
> taskfd_send_signal(fd, SIGSTOP, NULL, TASKFD_PID);
> 
> This seems to me the cleanest solution as we only use one type of file
> descriptor. Can everyone be on board with this? If so I'm going to send
> out a new version of the patch.
> 
> Christian

I'm on board with this, but I think you need to also clarify what exactly
the fd stands for.  I think that (a) userspace should not have to care
about the struct pid implementation, and so (b) the procfd should stand
for all the pids.  So when taskfd_send_signal(fd, SIGSTOP, NULL, TASKFD_PGID)
becomes implemented, then open(/proc/5) will pin all three pids, as will
open(/proc/5/task/6).

-serge

  reply index

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-12-06 12:18 Christian Brauner
2018-12-06 12:30 ` Florian Weimer
2018-12-06 12:45   ` Jürg Billeter
2018-12-06 13:12     ` Florian Weimer
2018-12-06 13:18       ` Jürg Billeter
2018-12-06 13:20         ` Florian Weimer
2018-12-06 13:40       ` ebiederm
2018-12-06 13:44         ` Florian Weimer
2018-12-06 14:27           ` Aleksa Sarai
2018-12-06 14:46           ` ebiederm
2018-12-06 12:53   ` Christian Brauner
2018-12-06 13:17     ` Florian Weimer
2018-12-06 15:01 ` ebiederm
2018-12-06 16:17   ` Daniel Colascione
2018-12-06 17:24     ` ebiederm
2018-12-06 17:41       ` Christian Brauner
2018-12-06 18:30         ` Kees Cook
2018-12-06 22:27           ` Serge E. Hallyn
2018-12-06 17:14   ` Christian Brauner
2018-12-06 19:17     ` ebiederm
2018-12-06 19:30       ` Christian Brauner
2018-12-06 20:29         ` ebiederm
2018-12-06 20:37           ` Daniel Colascione
2018-12-06 22:22             ` ebiederm
2018-12-06 22:43               ` Daniel Colascione
2018-12-06 21:31           ` Christian Brauner
2018-12-06 21:46             ` ebiederm
2018-12-06 22:01               ` Daniel Colascione
2018-12-06 22:39               ` Christian Brauner
2018-12-06 23:17                 ` Christian Brauner
2018-12-07  0:31                   ` Serge E. Hallyn [this message]
2018-12-07  0:34                     ` Daniel Colascione
2018-12-07  0:59                       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2018-12-07  1:39                         ` Daniel Colascione
2018-12-07  1:54                           ` Christian Brauner
2018-12-07 16:49                             ` Serge E. Hallyn
2018-12-07 16:47 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2018-12-08 21:46 ` kbuild test robot

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