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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Patrick Bellasi <patrick.bellasi@arm.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-api@vger.kernel.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	"Rafael J . Wysocki" <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>,
	Paul Turner <pjt@google.com>,
	Quentin Perret <quentin.perret@arm.com>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	Morten Rasmussen <morten.rasmussen@arm.com>,
	Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>, Todd Kjos <tkjos@google.com>,
	Joel Fernandes <joelaf@google.com>,
	Steve Muckle <smuckle@google.com>,
	Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 09/16] sched/cpufreq: uclamp: Add utilization clamping for RT tasks
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2019 21:11:46 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190123201146.GH17749@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190123144011.iid3avb63r5v4r2c@e110439-lin>

On Wed, Jan 23, 2019 at 02:40:11PM +0000, Patrick Bellasi wrote:
> On 23-Jan 11:49, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 10:15:06AM +0000, Patrick Bellasi wrote:
> > > @@ -858,16 +859,23 @@ static inline void
> > >  uclamp_effective_get(struct task_struct *p, unsigned int clamp_id,
> > >  		     unsigned int *clamp_value, unsigned int *bucket_id)
> > >  {
> > > +	struct uclamp_se *default_clamp;
> > > +
> > >  	/* Task specific clamp value */
> > >  	*clamp_value = p->uclamp[clamp_id].value;
> > >  	*bucket_id = p->uclamp[clamp_id].bucket_id;
> > >  
> > > +	/* RT tasks have different default values */
> > > +	default_clamp = task_has_rt_policy(p)
> > > +		? uclamp_default_perf
> > > +		: uclamp_default;
> > > +
> > >  	/* System default restriction */
> > > -	if (unlikely(*clamp_value < uclamp_default[UCLAMP_MIN].value ||
> > > -		     *clamp_value > uclamp_default[UCLAMP_MAX].value)) {
> > > +	if (unlikely(*clamp_value < default_clamp[UCLAMP_MIN].value ||
> > > +		     *clamp_value > default_clamp[UCLAMP_MAX].value)) {
> > >  		/* Keep it simple: unconditionally enforce system defaults */
> > > -		*clamp_value = uclamp_default[clamp_id].value;
> > > -		*bucket_id = uclamp_default[clamp_id].bucket_id;
> > > +		*clamp_value = default_clamp[clamp_id].value;
> > > +		*bucket_id = default_clamp[clamp_id].bucket_id;
> > >  	}
> > >  }
> > 
> > So I still don't much like the whole effective thing;
> 
> :/
> 
> I find back-annotation useful in many cases since we have different
> sources for possible clamp values:
> 
>  1. task specific
>  2. cgroup defined
>  3. system defaults
>  4. system power default

(I'm not sure I've seen 4 happen yet, what's that?)

Anyway, once you get range composition defined; that should be something
like:

	R_p \Compose_g R_g

Where R_p is the range of task-p, and R_g is the range of the g'th
cgroup of p (where you can make an identity between the root cgroup and
the system default).

Now; as per the other email; I think the straight forward composition:

struct range compose(struct range a, struct range b)
{
	return (range){.min = clamp(a.min, b.min, b.max),
	               .max = clamp(a.max, b.min, b.max), };
}

(note that this is non-commutative, so we have to pay attention to
get the order 'right')

Works in this case; unlike the cpu/rq conposition where we resort to a
pure max function for non-interference.

> I don't think we can avoid to somehow back annotate on which bucket a
> task has been refcounted... it makes dequeue so much easier, it helps
> in ensuring that the refcouning is consistent and enable lazy updates.

So I'll have to go over the code again, but I'm wondering why you're
changing uclamp_se::bucket_id on a runnable task.

Ideally you keep bucket_id invariant between enqueue and dequeue; then
dequeue knows where we put it.

Now I suppose actually determining bucket_id is 'expensive' (it
certainly is with the whole mapping scheme, but even that integer
division is not nice), so we'd like to precompute the bucket_id.

This then leads to the problem of how to change uclamp_se::value while
runnable (since per the other thread you don't want to always update all
runnable tasks).

So far so right?

I'm thikning that if we haz a single bit, say:

  struct uclamp_se {
	...
	unsigned int	changed : 1;
  };

We can update uclamp_se::value and set uclamp_se::changed, and then the
next enqueue will (unlikely) test-and-clear changed and recompute the
bucket_id.

Would that not be simpler?



  reply	other threads:[~2019-01-23 20:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-01-15 10:14 [PATCH v6 00/16] Add utilization clamping support Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-15 10:14 ` [PATCH v6 01/16] sched/core: Allow sched_setattr() to use the current policy Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-25 13:56   ` Alessio Balsini
2019-01-15 10:14 ` [PATCH v6 02/16] sched/core: uclamp: Extend sched_setattr() to support utilization clamping Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-15 10:15 ` [PATCH v6 03/16] sched/core: uclamp: Map TASK's clamp values into CPU's clamp buckets Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-21 10:15   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-21 12:27     ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-21 12:51       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-21 15:05   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-21 15:34     ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-15 10:15 ` [PATCH v6 04/16] sched/core: uclamp: Add CPU's clamp buckets refcounting Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-21 14:59   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-21 15:23     ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-21 16:12       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-21 16:33         ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-22  9:45           ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-22 10:31             ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-21 15:17   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-21 15:54     ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-22 10:03       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-22 10:53         ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-15 10:15 ` [PATCH v6 05/16] sched/core: uclamp: Update CPU's refcount on clamp changes Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-21 15:33   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-21 15:44     ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-22  9:37       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-22 10:43         ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-22 13:28           ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-22 14:01             ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-22 14:57               ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-22 15:33                 ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-23  9:16                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-23 14:14                     ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-23 18:59                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-24 11:21                         ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-24 12:38                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-15 10:15 ` [PATCH v6 06/16] sched/core: uclamp: Enforce last task UCLAMP_MAX Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-15 10:15 ` [PATCH v6 07/16] sched/core: uclamp: Add system default clamps Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-22 13:56   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-22 14:43     ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-22 15:13       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-22 15:41         ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-23  9:22           ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-23 14:19             ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-23 19:10               ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-15 10:15 ` [PATCH v6 08/16] sched/cpufreq: uclamp: Add utilization clamping for FAIR tasks Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-22 10:37   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-01-22 11:02     ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-22 11:04       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-01-22 11:27         ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-22 15:21   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-22 15:45     ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-22 17:13   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-22 18:18     ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-23  9:52       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-23 14:24         ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-15 10:15 ` [PATCH v6 09/16] sched/cpufreq: uclamp: Add utilization clamping for RT tasks Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-22 12:30   ` Quentin Perret
2019-01-22 12:37     ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-23 10:28   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-23 14:33     ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-23 10:49   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-23 14:40     ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-23 20:11       ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2019-01-24 12:30         ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-24 12:38           ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-24 15:12             ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-24 16:00               ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-24 15:31           ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-24 16:14             ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-24 15:33           ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-24 15:15   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-24 16:05     ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-15 10:15 ` [PATCH v6 10/16] sched/core: Add uclamp_util_with() Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-23 13:33   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-23 14:51     ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-23 19:22       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-15 10:15 ` [PATCH v6 11/16] sched/fair: Add uclamp support to energy_compute() Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-22 12:13   ` Quentin Perret
2019-01-22 12:45     ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-22 13:29       ` Quentin Perret
2019-01-22 14:26         ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-22 14:39           ` Quentin Perret
2019-01-22 15:01             ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-22 15:14               ` Quentin Perret
2019-01-15 10:15 ` [PATCH v6 12/16] sched/core: uclamp: Extend CPU's cgroup controller Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-15 10:15 ` [PATCH v6 13/16] sched/core: uclamp: Propagate parent clamps Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-15 10:15 ` [PATCH v6 14/16] sched/core: uclamp: Map TG's clamp values into CPU's clamp buckets Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-15 10:15 ` [PATCH v6 15/16] sched/core: uclamp: Use TG's clamps to restrict TASK's clamps Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-15 10:15 ` [PATCH v6 16/16] sched/core: uclamp: Update CPU's refcount on TG's clamp changes Patrick Bellasi

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