From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: hpa@zytor.com
Cc: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
Julien Thierry <julien.thierry@arm.com>,
Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, mingo@redhat.com,
catalin.marinas@arm.com, james.morse@arm.com,
valentin.schneider@arm.com, brgerst@gmail.com,
jpoimboe@redhat.com, luto@kernel.org, bp@alien8.de,
dvlasenk@redhat.com, torvalds@linux-foundation.org,
tglx@linutronix.de
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched/x86: Save [ER]FLAGS on context switch
Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2019 11:30:44 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190216103044.GR32494@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20ABBED1-E505-45F6-8520-FB93786DF9A9@zytor.com>
On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 08:06:56PM -0800, hpa@zytor.com wrote:
> This implies we invoke schedule -- a restricted operation (consider
> may_sleep) during execution of STAC-enabled code, but *not* as an
> exception or interrupt, since those preserve the flags.
Meet preempt_enable().
> I have serious concerns about this. This is more or less saying that
> we have left an unlimited gap and have had AC escape.
Yes; by allowing normal C in between STAC and CLAC this is so.
> Does *anyone* see a need to allow this? I got a question at LPC from
> someone about this, and what they were trying to do once all the
> layers had been unwound was so far down the wrong track for a root
> problem that actually has a very simple solution.
Have you read the rest of the thread?
All it takes for this to explode is a call to a C function that has
tracing on it in between the user_access_begin() and user_access_end()
things. That is a _very_ easy thing to do.
Heck, GCC is allowed to generate that broken code compiling
lib/strnlen_user.c; it doesn't _have_ to inline do_strnlen_user (esp.
with CONFIG_OPTIMIZE_INLINING), and making that a function call would
get us fentry hooks and ftrace and *BOOM*.
(Now, of course, its a static function with a single caller, and GCC
isn't _THAT_ stupid, but it could, if it wanted to)
Since the bar is _that_ low for mistakes, I figure we'd better fix it.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-02-16 10:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-01-15 13:58 [PATCH v3 0/4] uaccess: Add unsafe accessors for arm64 Julien Thierry
2019-01-15 13:58 ` [PATCH v3 1/4] arm64: uaccess: Cleanup get/put_user() Julien Thierry
2019-01-15 13:58 ` [PATCH v3 2/4] arm64: uaccess: Implement unsafe accessors Julien Thierry
2019-01-15 13:58 ` [PATCH v3 3/4] uaccess: Check no rescheduling function is called in unsafe region Julien Thierry
2019-01-30 16:58 ` Valentin Schneider
2019-02-04 13:27 ` Julien Thierry
2019-02-11 13:45 ` Ingo Molnar
2019-02-11 13:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-12 9:15 ` Julien Thierry
2019-02-13 8:21 ` Ingo Molnar
2019-02-13 10:35 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-13 10:50 ` Julien Thierry
2019-02-13 13:17 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-13 13:20 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-13 14:00 ` Will Deacon
2019-02-13 14:07 ` Julien Thierry
2019-02-13 14:17 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-13 14:24 ` Julien Thierry
2019-02-13 14:40 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-13 15:08 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-13 14:25 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-13 14:39 ` Julien Thierry
2019-02-13 14:41 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-13 15:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-13 18:54 ` Peter Zijlstra
[not found] ` <D61C430D-4321-4114-AB85-671A3C7B8EAE@amacapital.net>
2019-02-13 22:21 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-13 22:49 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-02-14 10:14 ` [PATCH] sched/x86: Save [ER]FLAGS on context switch Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-14 16:18 ` Brian Gerst
2019-02-14 19:34 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-15 14:34 ` Brian Gerst
2019-02-15 17:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-02-15 17:40 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-15 18:28 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-02-15 23:34 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-16 0:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-02-16 10:32 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-16 4:06 ` hpa
2019-02-16 10:30 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2019-02-18 22:30 ` H. Peter Anvin
2019-02-19 0:24 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-02-19 2:20 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-02-19 2:46 ` H. Peter Anvin
2019-02-19 9:07 ` Julien Thierry
2019-02-19 8:53 ` Julien Thierry
2019-02-19 9:15 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-19 9:19 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-19 9:04 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-19 9:21 ` hpa
2019-02-19 9:44 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-19 11:38 ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-02-19 11:58 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-19 12:48 ` Will Deacon
2019-02-20 22:55 ` H. Peter Anvin
2019-02-21 12:06 ` Julien Thierry
2019-02-21 21:35 ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-02-21 22:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-02-22 12:58 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-22 18:10 ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-02-22 22:26 ` [RFC][PATCH] objtool: STAC/CLAC validation Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-22 23:34 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-02-23 8:43 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-22 23:39 ` hpa
2019-02-23 8:39 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-25 8:47 ` hpa
2019-02-25 13:21 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-01 15:07 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-25 8:49 ` hpa
2019-02-22 23:55 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-02-23 8:37 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-23 10:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-25 10:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-25 11:53 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-25 15:36 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-02-25 8:33 ` Julien Thierry
2019-02-25 11:55 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-21 12:46 ` [PATCH] sched/x86: Save [ER]FLAGS on context switch Will Deacon
2019-02-21 22:06 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-02-18 9:03 ` [PATCH v2] " Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-13 23:19 ` [PATCH v3 3/4] uaccess: Check no rescheduling function is called in unsafe region Linus Torvalds
2019-01-15 13:58 ` [PATCH v3 4/4] arm64: uaccess: Implement user_access_region_active Julien Thierry
2019-01-25 14:27 ` [PATCH v3 0/4] uaccess: Add unsafe accessors for arm64 Catalin Marinas
2019-01-30 16:17 ` Julien Thierry
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