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From: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
To: "Singh, Brijesh" <brijesh.singh@amd.com>
Cc: Nathaniel McCallum <npmccallum@redhat.com>,
	"linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org" <linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Natarajan, Janakarajan" <Janakarajan.Natarajan@amd.com>,
	"Hook, Gary" <Gary.Hook@amd.com>,
	"Lendacky, Thomas" <Thomas.Lendacky@amd.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] crypto: ccp: introduce SEV_GET_ID2 command
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2019 12:37:07 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190222043707.6kzqeztgx3rvv3a4@gondor.apana.org.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a38e8f14-0ee1-f3ba-fda0-c6eff88c71a8@amd.com>

On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 07:33:29PM +0000, Singh, Brijesh wrote:
> 
> 
> On 2/14/19 10:57 AM, Nathaniel McCallum wrote:
> > I'm a little concerned that this immediately disables SEV_GET_ID.
> > IMHO, we should continue to support both for a period of time. One
> > justification for immediate disablement would be that if keeping it
> > around is likely to enabled incorrect or insecure userspace behavior
> > with a firmware change. 
> 
> 
> There are not many programs using the GET_ID today, my preference
> is to force userspace running on a kernel which supports the GET_ID2
> to use GET_ID2 and not fallback to GET_ID.
> 
> The current GET_ID is *broken*.
> 
> Here is one case I am trying to navigate:
> - AMD releases a new CPU
> - The kernel used in your distro does not support this CPU yet.
>    You updated the kernel to get the CPU support.
> - The GET_ID on this CPU returned a 10 bytes (instead of 64)
> - You gave the 64-bytes of data to AMD to get the certificate.
>    AMD server rejects the request because ID given to it does not
>    exist in its database.
> 
> If we drop the support for GET_ID in kernel, then GET_ID will fail and
> user will required to take action.

Sorry, but we can't drop a kernel API just to force userspace
to upgrade to a new one.

So I agree with Nathaniel that we should keep compatibility until
such a time when user-space is no longer using the old API.

You can use other mechanisms to encourage user-space to switch
over to the new API, e.g., a once-only warning if the old API
is used.

Cheers,
-- 
Email: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/
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  reply	other threads:[~2019-02-22  4:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-02-13 19:23 [PATCH] crypto: ccp: introduce SEV_GET_ID2 command Singh, Brijesh
2019-02-14 16:57 ` Nathaniel McCallum
2019-02-14 19:33   ` Singh, Brijesh
2019-02-22  4:37     ` Herbert Xu [this message]
2019-02-25 22:46       ` Singh, Brijesh

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