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From: Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: kernel test robot <lkp@intel.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Shuah Khan <shuah@kernel.org>,
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	Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Changbin Du <changbin.du@gmail.com>, Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>,
	Nadav Amit <namit@vmware.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
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Subject: Re: [uaccess] 780464aed0: WARNING:at_arch/x86/include/asm/uaccess.h:#strnlen_user/0x
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2019 11:36:35 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190305113635.18f80ea3b1f4fca54b9d21e4@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=wiQM84VsAiw92UWyQZTQxr+F032Gm5BiFBXk7tC+LQohQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 10:59:22 -0800
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:

> On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 1:06 AM Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Sun, 3 Mar 2019 18:37:59 -0800
> > Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
> > > We've had this before. We've gotten rid of the actual "use system
> > > calls", but we still have some of the init sequence in particular just
> > > calling the wrappers instead.
> >
> > Are those safe if we are in init sequence?
> 
> Yes, they are, it runs with set_fs(KERNEL_DS).
> 
> But the patches made that now complain about copying from non-user
> space, even though it's fine.
> 
> Basically, "strncpy_from_user()" shouldn't use "user_access_ok()",
> since it actually can take a kernel address (with set_fs()).

OK, so strncpy_from_user() or any other copy_from_user() should be
available for copying kernel memory if set_fs(KERNEL_DS).

> Your "unsafe" version for tracing that actually sets "set_fs(USER_DS)"
> is thje only thing that should use that helper.

I see, it ensures it is accessing user-memory.

> 
> > > And yes, ksys_mount() takes __user pointers.
> > >
> > > It would be a lot better to use "do_mount()", which is the interface
> > > that takes actual "char *" pointers.
> >
> > Unfortunately, it still takes a __user pointer.
> 
> Ahh, yes, the name remains in user space.
> 
> Besides, I'm sure you'd just hit other cases instead where people use
> set_fs() and copy strings.

Yeah, under init/ I saw such cases.

> 
> > So what we need is
> >
> > long do_mount(const char *dev_name, struct path *dir_path,
> >                 const char *type_page, unsigned long flags, void *data_page)
> >
> > or introduce kern_do_mount()?
> 
> It's actually fairly painful. Particularly because of that "void *data_page".

Yeah, that is what I've hit while testing :-(

> 
> Your second email with "Would this work?" helper function _wopuldn't_
> work correctly, exactly because you passed in a regular string to the
> data page.
> 
> Also, I don't want to see code that replaces the unconditional "copy
> path from user space" with a conditional "do we have path in kernel
> space".

Yes, that's just a hack :)

> 
> So together with the whole "uyou'll hit other peoblems anyway", I
> don't think this is a good approach.
> 
> I think you simply need to have a separate "unsafe_strncpy()"
> function, and not change the existing "strncpy_from_user()".

Would you mean implementing yet another "strncpy_from_user without
pagefault"? 
What we changed here is just use user_access_ok() instead access_ok() 
in user_access_begin() because access_ok() may cause false-positive
warning if we use it in IRQ.

I think the better way to do this is allowing strncpy_from_user()
if some conditions are match, like

 - strncpy_from_user() will be able to copy user memory with set_fs(USER_DS)
 - strncpy_from_user() can copy kernel memory with set_fs(KERNEL_DS)
 - strncpy_from_user() can access unsafe memory in IRQ context if
   pagefault is disabled.

This is almost done, except for CONFIG_DEBUG_ATOMIC_SLEEP=y on x86.

So, what about adding a condition to WARN_ON_IN_IRQ() like below
instead of introducing user_access_ok() ?

diff --git a/arch/x86/include/asm/uaccess.h b/arch/x86/include/asm/uaccess.h
index 780f2b42c8ef..ec0f0b74c9ab 100644
--- a/arch/x86/include/asm/uaccess.h
+++ b/arch/x86/include/asm/uaccess.h
@@ -70,7 +70,7 @@ static inline bool __chk_range_not_ok(unsigned long addr, unsigned long size, un
 })
 
 #ifdef CONFIG_DEBUG_ATOMIC_SLEEP
-# define WARN_ON_IN_IRQ()      WARN_ON_ONCE(!in_task())
+# define WARN_ON_IN_IRQ()      WARN_ON_ONCE(pagefault_disabled() && !in_task())
 #else
 # define WARN_ON_IN_IRQ()
 #endif

Of course we have to move pagefault_disabled() macro in somewhere better place.

Thank you,

-- 
Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>

  reply	other threads:[~2019-03-05  2:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-02-28 16:02 [PATCH v5 0/6] tracing/probes: uaccess: Add support user-space access Masami Hiramatsu
2019-02-28 16:02 ` [PATCH v5 1/6] uaccess: Add user_access_ok() Masami Hiramatsu
2019-02-28 16:03 ` [PATCH v5 2/6] uaccess: Use user_access_ok() in user_access_begin() Masami Hiramatsu
2019-03-03 17:39   ` [uaccess] 780464aed0: WARNING:at_arch/x86/include/asm/uaccess.h:#strnlen_user/0x kernel test robot
2019-03-03 19:53     ` Linus Torvalds
2019-03-04  1:14       ` Masami Hiramatsu
2019-03-04  2:37         ` Linus Torvalds
2019-03-04  9:06           ` Masami Hiramatsu
2019-03-04 15:16             ` Masami Hiramatsu
2019-03-04 15:58               ` Jann Horn
2019-03-04 18:59             ` Linus Torvalds
2019-03-05  2:36               ` Masami Hiramatsu [this message]
2019-03-05  8:22                 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2019-03-05  9:01                   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2019-03-05  9:07                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-05 13:58                   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2019-03-05 14:53                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-05 15:18                       ` Masami Hiramatsu
2019-03-04  3:20       ` [LKP] " Rong Chen
2019-02-28 16:03 ` [PATCH v5 3/6] uaccess: Add non-pagefault user-space read functions Masami Hiramatsu
2019-02-28 22:49   ` Yonghong Song
2019-03-01  2:29     ` Masami Hiramatsu
2019-03-01  6:30       ` Yonghong Song
2019-02-28 16:04 ` [PATCH v5 4/6] tracing/probe: Add ustring type for user-space string Masami Hiramatsu
2019-02-28 16:04 ` [PATCH v5 5/6] tracing/probe: Support user-space dereference Masami Hiramatsu
2019-02-28 16:05 ` [PATCH v5 6/6] selftests/ftrace: Add user-memory access syntax testcase Masami Hiramatsu

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