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From: Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
To: Sven Van Asbroeck <thesven73@gmail.com>
Cc: robh+dt@kernel.org, "Linus Walleij" <linus.walleij@linaro.org>,
	"Lee Jones" <lee.jones@linaro.org>,
	mark.rutland@arm.com, "Andreas Färber" <afaerber@suse.de>,
	treding@nvidia.com, "David Lechner" <david@lechnology.com>,
	noralf@tronnes.org, johan@kernel.org,
	"Michal Simek" <monstr@monstr.eu>,
	michal.vokac@ysoft.com, "Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de>,
	john.garry@huawei.com, geert+renesas@glider.be,
	robin.murphy@arm.com,
	"Paul Gortmaker" <paul.gortmaker@windriver.com>,
	sebastien.bourdelin@savoirfairelinux.com, icenowy@aosc.io,
	"Stuart Yoder" <stuyoder@gmail.com>,
	maxime.ripard@bootlin.com,
	"Linux Kernel Mailing List" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 0/6] Add Fieldbus subsystem + support HMS Profinet card
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2019 12:13:39 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190311191339.GA5628@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGngYiXZtNcqQ3JGgavBxypo75WtAT7T-X4DQFNWD8kQcifU8g@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 01:02:34PM -0400, Sven Van Asbroeck wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 8, 2019 at 9:14 AM Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
> >
> > Well, who wants this code?  Who uses it?  Find those people and get them
> > to review it.  If no one wants it or uses it, that kind of implies that
> > it's not needed :)
> 
> We have customers who (will) talk to this ABI from userspace, but they are
> not 'Linux-y' enough to come to the mailing list and meaningfully review
> the userspace ABI.
> 
> IMHO the current reality of Fieldbus on Linux is companies rolling their own
> proprietary out-of-tree interfaces and drivers. They do this partly because
> there is no existing community or infrastructure. So there is no incentive
> to be involved with mainline, which could also explain why no-one is commenting
> on this Fieldbus ABI.
> 
> Chicken-and-egg problem ?
> 
> Greg, could I convince you to take this Fieldbus subsystem in drivers/staging?
> Perhaps its presence may kickstart or seed a Linux Fieldbus community.
> Being in staging/ also means that we can tweak the userspace ABI to our
> heart's content if more people/requirements come in.
> 
> If there's been no meaningful activity in, say, one year from now, you may
> decide to send this whole subsystem to /dev/null.

That sounds like a good plan, I'll take that.  Want to respin the
patches with the code in drivers/staging/ and I'll be glad to queue them
up after 5.1-rc1 is out.

thanks,

greg k-h

  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-03-11 19:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-01-24 20:12 [PATCH v8 0/6] Add Fieldbus subsystem + support HMS Profinet card Sven Van Asbroeck
2019-01-24 20:12 ` [PATCH v8 1/6] fieldbus_dev: add Fieldbus Device subsystem Sven Van Asbroeck
2019-02-08 12:18   ` Greg KH
2019-02-08 16:30     ` Sven Van Asbroeck
2019-02-09  9:11       ` Greg KH
2019-01-24 20:12 ` [PATCH v8 2/6] anybus-s: support HMS Anybus-S bus Sven Van Asbroeck
2019-01-24 20:12 ` [PATCH v8 3/6] anybus-s: support the Arcx anybus controller Sven Van Asbroeck
2019-01-24 20:12 ` [PATCH v8 4/6] dt-bindings: anybus-controller: document devicetree binding Sven Van Asbroeck
2019-01-24 20:12 ` [PATCH v8 5/6] dt-bindings: Add vendor prefix for arcx / Archronix Sven Van Asbroeck
2019-01-24 20:12 ` [PATCH v8 6/6] fieldbus_dev: support HMS Profinet IRT industrial controller Sven Van Asbroeck
2019-02-08 12:19   ` Greg KH
2019-02-06 13:47 ` [PATCH v8 0/6] Add Fieldbus subsystem + support HMS Profinet card Sven Van Asbroeck
2019-02-08 12:19   ` Greg KH
2019-02-08 14:05     ` Sven Van Asbroeck
2019-02-08 14:14       ` Greg KH
2019-03-11 17:02         ` Sven Van Asbroeck
2019-03-11 17:25           ` Andreas Färber
2019-03-11 20:01             ` Sven Van Asbroeck
2019-03-11 19:13           ` Greg KH [this message]
2019-03-11 20:03             ` Sven Van Asbroeck
2019-03-12 17:11             ` Sven Van Asbroeck
2019-03-12 17:13               ` Greg KH

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