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From: Michal Kubecek <mkubecek@suse.cz>
To: Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>
Cc: Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail.com>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	Jakub Kicinski <jakub.kicinski@netronome.com>,
	Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>,
	John Linville <linville@tuxdriver.com>,
	Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v5 05/22] ethtool: introduce ethtool netlink interface
Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2019 10:37:46 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190328093746.GA26076@unicorn.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190328081010.GJ14297@nanopsycho>

On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 09:10:10AM +0100, Jiri Pirko wrote:
> Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 03:05:14AM CET, f.fainelli@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> >
> >On 3/27/2019 2:50 AM, Jiri Pirko wrote:
> >> 
> >> Why don't you have ETHTOOL_MSG_SET_FOO for set? I think that for
> >> kerne->userspace the ETHTOOL_MSG_FOO if fine. I would change the
> >> ordering of words thought, but it is cosmetics:
> >> ETHTOOL_MSG_FOO /* kernel->userspace messages - replies, notifications */
> >> ETHTOOL_MSG_FOO_GET
> >> ETHTOOL_MSG_FOO_SET
> >> ETHTOOL_MSG_FOO_ACT
> >> 
> >> What do you think?
> >
> >We could even name the notification explicitly with: ETHTOOL_MSG_NOTIF
> >or ETHTOOL_MSG_NTF just so we spell out exactly what those messages are.
> 
> Sound good. Something like:
> 
> ETHTOOL_MSG_FOO_GET
> ETHTOOL_MSG_FOO_GET_RPLY /* kernel->userspace replies to get */
> ETHTOOL_MSG_FOO_SET
> ETHTOOL_MSG_FOO_ACT
> ETHTOOL_MSG_FOO_NTF /* kernel->userspace async messages - notifications */

The names sound fine to me and having different message ids would still
allow processing messages by the same handler easily.

But there is one potential issue I would like to point out: this way we
spend 4 message ids for a get/set pair rather than 2. These message ids
(genlmsghdr::cmd) are u8, i.e. the resource is not as infinite as one
would wish. There are 80 ioctl commands (43 "get" and 29 "set") at the
moment.

Netlink API should be less greedy in general. I already combined some
ioctl commands into one netlink request type and with an easy way to add
new attributes to existing commands, we won't need to add new commands
as often (certainly not in a way which left us with 9 "get" and 9 "set"
ioctl commands for netdev features). So even with 4 ids per get/set
pair, we might be safe for reasonably long time. But it's still
something to keep in mind.

Michal

  reply	other threads:[~2019-03-28  9:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 109+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-03-25 17:07 [PATCH net-next v5 00/22] ethtool netlink interface, part 1 Michal Kubecek
2019-03-25 17:07 ` [PATCH net-next v5 01/22] rtnetlink: provide permanent hardware address in RTM_NEWLINK Michal Kubecek
2019-03-26 10:08   ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-26 10:31     ` Michal Kubecek
2019-03-26 11:38       ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-26 19:46   ` David Miller
2019-03-25 17:08 ` [PATCH net-next v5 02/22] netlink: introduce nla_put_bitfield32() Michal Kubecek
2019-03-26 10:09   ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-28  1:56   ` Florian Fainelli
2019-03-25 17:08 ` [PATCH net-next v5 03/22] netlink: add strict version of nla_parse_nested() Michal Kubecek
2019-03-26 10:11   ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-28  1:57   ` Florian Fainelli
2019-03-25 17:08 ` [PATCH net-next v5 04/22] ethtool: move to its own directory Michal Kubecek
2019-03-26 10:14   ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-28  1:57   ` Florian Fainelli
2019-03-25 17:08 ` [PATCH net-next v5 05/22] ethtool: introduce ethtool netlink interface Michal Kubecek
2019-03-26 12:09   ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-26 13:24     ` Michal Kubecek
2019-03-26 13:42       ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-27  9:26         ` Michal Kubecek
2019-03-27  9:50           ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-28  2:05             ` Florian Fainelli
2019-03-28  8:10               ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-28  9:37                 ` Michal Kubecek [this message]
2019-03-28 13:23                   ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-28 17:00                     ` Florian Fainelli
2019-03-28 17:28                       ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-26 16:36   ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-26 17:32     ` Michal Kubecek
2019-03-27  9:26       ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-25 17:08 ` [PATCH net-next v5 06/22] ethtool: helper functions for " Michal Kubecek
2019-03-26 12:38   ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-26 14:19     ` Michal Kubecek
2019-03-26 16:22       ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-25 17:08 ` [PATCH net-next v5 07/22] ethtool: netlink bitset handling Michal Kubecek
2019-03-26 15:59   ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-26 17:59     ` Michal Kubecek
2019-03-27  9:57       ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-27 10:19         ` Michal Kubecek
2019-03-25 17:08 ` [PATCH net-next v5 08/22] ethtool: support for netlink notifications Michal Kubecek
2019-03-26 16:34   ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-26 18:17     ` Michal Kubecek
2019-03-27  9:38       ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-27  9:51         ` Andrew Lunn
2019-03-27 10:04           ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-27 10:16             ` Andrew Lunn
2019-03-27 10:41               ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-27  9:59         ` Michal Kubecek
2019-03-27 10:43           ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-25 17:08 ` [PATCH net-next v5 09/22] ethtool: implement EVENT notifications Michal Kubecek
2019-03-27 13:04   ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-27 14:14     ` Michal Kubecek
2019-03-28  2:14       ` Florian Fainelli
2019-03-28  6:41         ` Michal Kubecek
2019-03-28  9:16           ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-25 17:08 ` [PATCH net-next v5 10/22] ethtool: generic handlers for GET requests Michal Kubecek
2019-03-27 16:35   ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-27 21:53     ` Michal Kubecek
2019-03-28 13:32       ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-25 17:08 ` [PATCH net-next v5 11/22] ethtool: move string arrays into common file Michal Kubecek
2019-03-28  2:17   ` Florian Fainelli
2019-03-25 17:08 ` [PATCH net-next v5 12/22] ethtool: provide string sets with GET_STRSET request Michal Kubecek
2019-03-27 20:12   ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-27 22:56     ` Michal Kubecek
2019-03-29  8:43       ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-28  2:25   ` Florian Fainelli
2019-03-28  7:18     ` Michal Kubecek
2019-03-28 13:43       ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-28 14:04         ` Michal Kubecek
2019-03-28 17:35           ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-28 18:52             ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-28 20:43               ` Michal Kubecek
2019-03-28 21:06                 ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-29  6:52                   ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-28 22:28             ` Michal Kubecek
2019-03-25 17:08 ` [PATCH net-next v5 13/22] ethtool: provide driver/device information in GET_INFO request Michal Kubecek
2019-03-27 20:14   ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-27 22:25     ` Michal Kubecek
2019-03-28  2:30       ` Florian Fainelli
2019-03-28  9:21       ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-28  9:53         ` Michal Kubecek
2019-03-28 16:34           ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-28 20:09             ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-28 22:46               ` Michal Kubecek
2019-03-29 18:48                 ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-29 18:53               ` Florian Fainelli
2019-03-25 17:08 ` [PATCH net-next v5 14/22] ethtool: provide timestamping " Michal Kubecek
2019-03-28  3:36   ` Florian Fainelli
2019-03-28 10:03     ` Michal Kubecek
2019-03-25 17:08 ` [PATCH net-next v5 15/22] ethtool: provide link mode names as a string set Michal Kubecek
2019-03-28  3:52   ` Florian Fainelli
2019-03-25 17:08 ` [PATCH net-next v5 16/22] ethtool: provide link settings and link modes in GET_SETTINGS request Michal Kubecek
2019-03-28  3:44   ` Florian Fainelli
2019-03-28 10:04     ` Michal Kubecek
2019-03-25 17:08 ` [PATCH net-next v5 17/22] ethtool: set link settings and link modes with SET_SETTINGS request Michal Kubecek
2019-03-25 17:08 ` [PATCH net-next v5 18/22] ethtool: provide link state in GET_SETTINGS request Michal Kubecek
2019-03-25 17:08 ` [PATCH net-next v5 19/22] ethtool: provide WoL information " Michal Kubecek
2019-03-28  3:42   ` Florian Fainelli
2019-03-28 10:10     ` Michal Kubecek
2019-03-25 17:08 ` [PATCH net-next v5 20/22] ethtool: set WoL settings with SET_SETTINGS request Michal Kubecek
2019-03-28  3:49   ` Florian Fainelli
2019-03-25 17:08 ` [PATCH net-next v5 21/22] ethtool: provide message level in GET_SETTINGS request Michal Kubecek
2019-03-28  3:46   ` Florian Fainelli
2019-03-25 17:09 ` [PATCH net-next v5 22/22] ethtool: set message level with SET_SETTINGS request Michal Kubecek
2019-03-28  3:48   ` Florian Fainelli
2019-03-27 13:09 ` [PATCH net-next v5 00/22] ethtool netlink interface, part 1 Jiri Pirko
2019-03-27 14:28   ` Michal Kubecek
2019-03-27 15:19     ` Jiri Pirko
2019-03-27 19:12     ` David Miller

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