From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=3.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28C79C10F13 for ; Thu, 11 Apr 2019 18:49:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F133E20663 for ; Thu, 11 Apr 2019 18:49:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1726914AbfDKStI (ORCPT ); Thu, 11 Apr 2019 14:49:08 -0400 Received: from ms.lwn.net ([45.79.88.28]:38868 "EHLO ms.lwn.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1726677AbfDKStG (ORCPT ); Thu, 11 Apr 2019 14:49:06 -0400 Received: from lwn.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ms.lwn.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 923002F3; Thu, 11 Apr 2019 18:49:05 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2019 12:49:04 -0600 From: Jonathan Corbet To: Mauro Carvalho Chehab Cc: Linux Doc Mailing List , Mauro Carvalho Chehab , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/10] Add all documentation files to an html/pdf produced book Message-ID: <20190411124904.12e61bc7@lwn.net> In-Reply-To: <20190410064939.2a9dca9a@coco.lan> References: <20190408161820.6a12657f@lwn.net> <20190410064939.2a9dca9a@coco.lan> Organization: LWN.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, 10 Apr 2019 06:49:39 -0300 Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote: [I'm just responding to one little piece of this for the moment...] > In any case, IMHO, the best would be to add a new > crap^h^h^h^hstaging group were we could place all legacy random stuff. > Then, gradually fix those, splitting stuff and promoting them to the > main books, in a similar way to what we do with staging. Now that's an interesting idea; I hadn't thought about that. Doing so, though, implies a willingness to stage unloved docs *out*, and my experience is that there is little appetite for that. It also kind of implies moving docs twice - at least for the ones that get updates - and that may not be entirely appreciated. > > I feel like it would, if anything, reduce the incentive to > > deal with these leftover documents properly. > > IMHO, it is just the opposite. Let's face it: ReST build was added around > May, 2016, for Kernel 4.7. People had quite some time and kernel versions > to do conversions. If nothing is done, I doubt we would have any boom on > patches addressing the issues. So I don't have any hard numbers, but my feeling is that this work is continuing apace and perhaps even picking up. Certainly I'm having a harder time keeping up with it, even when you're busy with other things :) These things take time; I'm not really ready to give up on it yet. Thanks, jon