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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
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Subject: Re: [patch V2 28/29] stacktrace: Provide common infrastructure
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2019 09:02:11 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190419070211.GL4038@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.21.1904181734200.3174@nanos.tec.linutronix.de>

On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 05:42:55PM +0200, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Apr 2019, Josh Poimboeuf wrote:

> > Another idea I had (but never got a chance to work on) was to extend the
> > x86 unwind interface to all arches.  So instead of the callbacks, each
> > arch would implement something like this API:

> I surely thought about that, but after staring at all incarnations of
> arch/*/stacktrace.c I just gave up.
> 
> Aside of that quite some archs already have callback based unwinders
> because they use them for more than stacktracing and just have a single
> implementation of that loop.
> 
> I'm fine either way. We can start with x86 and then let archs convert over
> their stuff, but I wouldn't hold my breath that this will be completed in
> the forseeable future.

I suggested the same to Thomas early on, and I even spend the time to
convert some $random arch to the iterator interface, and while it is
indeed entirely feasible, it is _far_ more work.

The callback thing OTOH is flexible enough to do what we want to do now,
and allows converting most archs to it without too much pain (as Thomas
said, many archs are already in this form and only need minor API
adjustments), which gets us in a far better place than we are now.

And we can always go to iterators later on. But I think getting the
generic unwinder improved across all archs is a really important first
step here.

  reply	other threads:[~2019-04-19 22:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-04-18  8:41 [patch V2 00/29] stacktrace: Consolidate stack trace usage Thomas Gleixner
2019-04-18  8:41 ` [patch V2 01/29] tracing: Cleanup stack trace code Thomas Gleixner
2019-04-18 13:57   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-04-18 21:14     ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-04-18 21:24       ` Steven Rostedt
2019-04-18 21:50         ` Steven Rostedt
2019-04-18 22:19   ` Steven Rostedt
2019-04-18 22:44     ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-04-19  0:39       ` Steven Rostedt
2019-04-18  8:41 ` [patch V2 02/29] stacktrace: Provide helpers for common stack trace operations Thomas Gleixner
2019-04-18  8:41 ` [patch V2 03/29] lib/stackdepot: Provide functions which operate on plain storage arrays Thomas Gleixner
2019-04-18 11:51   ` Mike Rapoport
2019-04-18 11:58     ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-04-18  8:41 ` [patch V2 04/29] backtrace-test: Simplify stack trace handling Thomas Gleixner
2019-04-18  8:41 ` [patch V2 05/29] proc: Simplify task stack retrieval Thomas Gleixner
2019-04-18  8:41 ` [patch V2 06/29] latency_top: Simplify stack trace handling Thomas Gleixner
2019-04-18  8:41 ` [patch V2 07/29] mm/slub: Simplify stack trace retrieval Thomas Gleixner
2019-04-18  8:41 ` [patch V2 08/29] mm/kmemleak: Simplify stacktrace handling Thomas Gleixner
2019-04-18 15:17   ` Catalin Marinas
2019-04-18  8:41 ` [patch V2 09/29] mm/kasan: " Thomas Gleixner
2019-04-18 10:39   ` Andrey Ryabinin
2019-04-18 11:53     ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-04-18  8:41 ` [patch V2 10/29] mm/page_owner: Simplify stack trace handling Thomas Gleixner
2019-04-18  8:41 ` [patch V2 11/29] fault-inject: Simplify stacktrace retrieval Thomas Gleixner
2019-04-18  8:41 ` [patch V2 12/29] dma/debug: Simplify stracktrace retrieval Thomas Gleixner
2019-04-19  7:05   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-04-18  8:41 ` [patch V2 13/29] btrfs: ref-verify: Simplify stack trace retrieval Thomas Gleixner
2019-04-18  8:41 ` [patch V2 14/29] dm bufio: " Thomas Gleixner
2019-04-18 10:44   ` Alexander Potapenko
2019-04-18 11:54     ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-04-18 12:11       ` Alexander Potapenko
2019-04-18 13:33         ` Steven Rostedt
2019-04-18  8:41 ` [patch V2 15/29] dm persistent data: Simplify stack trace handling Thomas Gleixner
2019-04-18  8:41 ` [patch V2 16/29] drm: Simplify stacktrace handling Thomas Gleixner
2019-04-23  7:36   ` Daniel Vetter
2019-04-18  8:41 ` [patch V2 17/29] lockdep: Remove unused trace argument from print_circular_bug() Thomas Gleixner
2019-04-18  8:41 ` [patch V2 18/29] lockdep: Move stack trace logic into check_prev_add() Thomas Gleixner
2019-04-24 19:45   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-24 19:51     ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-04-18  8:41 ` [patch V2 19/29] lockdep: Simplify stack trace handling Thomas Gleixner
2019-04-24 19:45   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-18  8:41 ` [patch V2 20/29] tracing: Simplify stacktrace retrieval in histograms Thomas Gleixner
2019-04-18 13:40   ` Steven Rostedt
2019-04-18 19:58     ` Tom Zanussi
2019-04-18 20:13       ` Steven Rostedt
2019-04-18 20:22         ` Tom Zanussi
2019-04-18  8:41 ` [patch V2 21/29] tracing: Use percpu stack trace buffer more intelligently Thomas Gleixner
2019-04-18 14:53   ` Steven Rostedt
2019-04-18 15:43     ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-04-18 15:46       ` Steven Rostedt
2019-04-18  8:41 ` [patch V2 22/29] tracing: Make ftrace_trace_userstack() static and conditional Thomas Gleixner
2019-04-19 13:28   ` Steven Rostedt
2019-04-18  8:41 ` [patch V2 23/29] tracing: Simplify stack trace retrieval Thomas Gleixner
2019-04-19 20:11   ` Steven Rostedt
2019-04-18  8:41 ` [patch V2 24/29] tracing: Remove the last struct stack_trace usage Thomas Gleixner
2019-04-19 20:11   ` Steven Rostedt
2019-04-18  8:41 ` [patch V2 25/29] livepatch: Simplify stack trace retrieval Thomas Gleixner
2019-04-23  8:18   ` Miroslav Benes
2019-04-18  8:41 ` [patch V2 26/29] stacktrace: Remove obsolete functions Thomas Gleixner
2019-04-18  8:41 ` [patch V2 27/29] lib/stackdepot: " Thomas Gleixner
2019-04-18  8:41 ` [patch V2 28/29] stacktrace: Provide common infrastructure Thomas Gleixner
2019-04-18 11:52   ` Mike Rapoport
2019-04-18 11:57     ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-04-18 14:52   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-04-18 15:42     ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-04-19  7:02       ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2019-04-19 15:50         ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-04-19  7:18   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-19  8:32     ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-04-19  9:07       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-19 16:17         ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-04-18  8:41 ` [patch V2 29/29] x86/stacktrace: Use " Thomas Gleixner

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