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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: huangpei@loongson.cn
Cc: Paul Burton <paul.burton@mips.com>,
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	Huacai Chen <chenhc@lemote.com>
Subject: Re: Re: [RFC][PATCH 2/5] mips/atomic: Fix loongson_llsc_mb() wreckage
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2019 09:33:48 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190425073348.GV11158@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2b2b07cc.bf42.16a52dc4e4d.Coremail.huangpei@loongson.cn>


A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
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On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 12:58:50PM +0800, huangpei@loongson.cn wrote:
> In my opinion. patch 2/3 is about Loongson's bug, and patch 4/5 is another theme.

Agreed; it's just that looking at the MIPS code to fix 4/5 made me trip
over this stuff.

> Let me explain the bug more specific:
> 
> the bug ONLY matters in following situation:
> 
> #. more than one cpu (assume cpu A and B) doing ll/sc on same shared
> var V
> 
> #. speculative memory access from A cause A erroneously succeed sc
> operation, since the erroneously successful sc operation violate the
> coherence protocol. (here coherence protocol means the rules that CPU
> follow to implement ll/sc right)
> 
> #. B succeed sc operation too, but this sc operation is right both
> logically and follow the coherence protocol, and makes A's sc wrong
> logically since only ONE sc operation can succeed.

(I know your coherence protocol is probably more complicated than MESI,
but bear with me)

So A speculatively gets V's line in Exclusive mode, speculates the Lock
flag is still there and completes the Store. This speculative store then
leaks out and violates MESI because there _should_ only be one Exclusive
owner of a line (B).

Something like that?

> If it is not LL/SC but other memory access from B on V, A's ll/sc can
> follow the atomic semantics even if A violate the coherence protocol
> in the same situation.

*shudder*...

  C atomic-set

  {
	  atomic_set(v, 1);
  }

  P1(atomic_t *v)
  {
	  atomic_add_unless(v, 1, 0);
  }

  P2(atomic_t *v)
  {
	  atomic_set(v, 0);
  }

  exists
  (v=2)

So that one will still work? (that is, v=2 is forbidden)

> In one word, the bug only affect local cpu‘s ll/sc operation, and
> affect MP system.

Because it is a coherence issue, triggered by a reorder. OK.

> PS:
> 
> If local_t is only ll/sc manipulated by current CPU, then no need fix it.

It _should_ be CPU local, but this was not at all clear from reading the
original changelog nor the comment with loongson_llsc_mb().

  reply	other threads:[~2019-04-25  7:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-04-24 12:36 [RFC][PATCH 0/5] atomic: Fixes to smp_mb__{before,after}_atomic() and mips Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-24 12:36 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/5] mips/atomic: Fix cmpxchg64 barriers Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-24 21:00   ` Paul Burton
2019-04-25  6:59     ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-24 12:36 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/5] mips/atomic: Fix loongson_llsc_mb() wreckage Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-24 12:59   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-24 21:18   ` Paul Burton
2019-04-25  4:58     ` huangpei
2019-04-25  7:33       ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2019-04-25  9:09         ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-25 12:14           ` huangpei
2019-04-25  9:12         ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-05-14 15:58           ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-05-14 16:10             ` Linus Torvalds
2019-05-14 16:56               ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-05-14 17:07                 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-05-15 13:50               ` huangpei
2019-04-25 11:32         ` huangpei
2019-04-25 12:26           ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-25 12:51             ` huangpei
2019-04-25 13:31               ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-26  2:57                 ` huangpei
2019-05-14 15:46                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-25 16:12       ` Linus Torvalds
2019-04-25  7:15     ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-24 12:36 ` [RFC][PATCH 3/5] mips/atomic: Optimize loongson3_llsc_mb() Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-24 12:37 ` [RFC][PATCH 4/5] mips/atomic: Fix smp_mb__{before,after}_atomic() Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-24 21:24   ` Paul Burton
2019-04-25  7:34     ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-24 12:37 ` [RFC][PATCH 5/5] x86/atomic: " Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-24 13:41   ` Will Deacon

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