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From: Aleksa Sarai <cyphar@cyphar.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
	Andrew Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>, Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
	Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
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	"J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>,
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	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
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	David Drysdale <drysdale@google.com>,
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	Aleksa Sarai <asarai@suse.de>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 5/6] binfmt_*: scope path resolution of interpreters
Date: Sun, 12 May 2019 23:38:26 +1000
Message-ID: <20190512133826.fcmfiqze7dnetews@yavin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190512133549.ymx5yg5rdqvavzyq@yavin>


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On 2019-05-12, Aleksa Sarai <cyphar@cyphar.com> wrote:
> On 2019-05-12, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
> > On Sat, May 11, 2019 at 7:37 PM Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> wrote:
> > > I bet this will break something that already exists. An execveat()
> > > flag to turn off /proc/self/exe would do the trick, though.
> > 
> > Thinking more about it, I suspect it is (once again) wrong to let the
> > thing that does the execve() control that bit.
> > 
> > Generally, the less we allow people to affect the lifetime and
> > environment of a suid executable, the better off we are.
> > 
> > But maybe we could limit /proc/*/exe to at least not honor suid'ness
> > of the target? Or does chrome/runc depend on that too?
> 
> Speaking on the runc side, we don't depend on this. It's possible
> someone depends on this for fexecve(3) -- but as mentioned before in
> newer kernels glibc uses execve(AT_EMPTY_PATH).
> 
> I would like to point out though that I'm a little bit cautious about
> /proc/self/exe-specific restrictions -- because a trivial way to get
> around them would be to just open it with O_PATH (and you end up with a
> /proc/self/fd/ which is equivalent). Unfortunately blocking setuid exec
> on all O_PATH descriptors would break even execve(AT_EMPTY_PATH) of
> setuid descriptors.
> 
> The patches I mentioned (which Andy and I discussed off-list) would
> effectively make the magiclink modes in /proc/ affect how you can
> operate on the path (no write bit in the mode, cannot re-open it write).
> One aspect of this is how to handle O_PATH and in particular how do we
> handle an O_PATH re-open of an already-restricted magiclink.
> 
> Maybe we could make it so that setuid is disallowed if you are dealing
> with an O_PATH fd which was a magiclink. Effectively, on O_PATH open you
> get an fmode_t saying FMODE_SETUID_EXEC_ALLOWED *but* if the path is a
> magiclink this fmode gets dropped and when the fd is given to
> execveat(AT_EMPTY_PATH) the fmode is checked and setuid-exec is not
> allowed.

... and obviously /proc/self/exe would have an fmode
~FMODE_SETUID_EXEC_ALLOWED from the outset. The reason for this slightly
odd semantic would be to continue to allow O_PATH setuid-exec as long as
the O_PATH was opened from an actual path rather than a magiclink.

-- 
Aleksa Sarai
Senior Software Engineer (Containers)
SUSE Linux GmbH
<https://www.cyphar.com/>

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Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-05-06 16:54 [PATCH v6 0/6] namei: resolveat(2) path resolution restriction API Aleksa Sarai
2019-05-06 16:54 ` [PATCH v6 1/6] namei: split out nd->dfd handling to dirfd_path_init Aleksa Sarai
2019-05-06 16:54 ` [PATCH v6 2/6] namei: O_BENEATH-style path resolution flags Aleksa Sarai
2019-05-06 16:54 ` [PATCH v6 3/6] namei: LOOKUP_IN_ROOT: chroot-like path resolution Aleksa Sarai
2019-05-06 16:54 ` [PATCH v6 4/6] namei: aggressively check for nd->root escape on ".." resolution Aleksa Sarai
2019-05-06 16:54 ` [PATCH v6 5/6] binfmt_*: scope path resolution of interpreters Aleksa Sarai
2019-05-06 18:37   ` Jann Horn
2019-05-06 19:17     ` Aleksa Sarai
2019-05-06 23:41       ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-05-08  0:54       ` Aleksa Sarai
2019-05-10 20:41       ` Jann Horn
2019-05-10 21:20         ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-05-10 22:55           ` Jann Horn
2019-05-10 23:36             ` Christian Brauner
2019-05-11 15:49               ` Aleksa Sarai
2019-05-11 17:00             ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-05-11 17:21               ` Linus Torvalds
2019-05-11 17:26                 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-05-11 17:31                   ` Aleksa Sarai
2019-05-11 17:43                     ` Linus Torvalds
2019-05-11 17:48                       ` Christian Brauner
2019-05-11 18:00                       ` Aleksa Sarai
2019-05-11 22:39                 ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]                   ` <CAHk-=wg3+3GfHsHdB4o78jNiPh_5ShrzxBuTN-Y8EZfiFMhCvw@mail.gmail.com>
2019-05-12 10:19                     ` Christian Brauner
     [not found]                     ` <9CD2B97D-A6BD-43BE-9040-B410D996A195@amacapital.net>
2019-05-12 10:44                       ` Linus Torvalds
2019-05-12 13:35                         ` Aleksa Sarai
2019-05-12 13:38                           ` Aleksa Sarai [this message]
2019-05-12 14:34                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-05-11 17:26               ` Aleksa Sarai
2019-05-08  0:38     ` Eric W. Biederman
2019-05-10 20:10       ` Jann Horn
2019-05-06 16:54 ` [PATCH v6 6/6] namei: resolveat(2) syscall Aleksa Sarai

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